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International Workshop Agreement on Sustainable Non-Sewered Systems Guides Standards Development for "Next-Generation Toilets"
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My fear is that the third world will be targeted by "World" banks taking loans that are not always repayable and others walking away with the profits. Do we need more examples of GFC affected countries in Debt ? What also about maintenance costs and skills for these higher spec systems ?
Don't get me wrong, I am all for inventing new and sustainable ways, but please ensure that community groups can be overseen by local authorities not private concerns.
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On the other hand you can often see the guiding hand international standards have on local regulations. Yes this is sometimes for the worst if they are copied 1:1, but in my experience it seems more often that it helps underfunded and inexperienced local government standards bodies to come up with something that at least works. I.e. an international standard adapted to the local circumstances is usually of higher quality then what these organisations can come up with by their own.
In addition international standards are often important teaching tools in engineering departments of universities, and if helps if high quality text-books from other countries do not differ too much from local regulations.
But this requires that these international standards are freely and easily available and I hope the Gates Foundation will be enforcing their own announced standards of open-access. Sadly free access to technical standards is often not the case and even a seemingly small cover-fee of $50 or so (as common in Germany) can be a significant barrier for access in these countries.
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How this is going to improve matters is beyond me, but certainly some will make a lot of money again at the third world's expense.
Create standards yes but making them enforceable is another example of the west creating wealth from the third world who can ill afford it.
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www.wateronline.com/doc/standard-faecal-...oping-countries-0001
Standard For Decentralised Faecal Sludge Treatment In Developing Countries:
TÜV SÜD has started developing a private technical standard for decentralized treatment plants. The aim is to promote innovations for safe and environmentally friendly sanitation in developing countries. The work is funded by a grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
(TÜV SÜD is a German private standards organization)
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We are looking into solution to make the document available to all.
Thanks,
Doulaye
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We are looking at possible solution to make this available. The current version is a normative document that can be used as guidelines. ISO has their own rules to fix their price. We will let you know when this document can be made available. Great to see your work with TBS. They may wat to join the meeting in October as participating countries.
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Chen Xiang Yang, an apple dealer,is growing apples and cherries with the human waste collected from 31 school UDDTs donated by SOHO China Foundation, based in Tianshui City, Gansu Province , China. This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., tel:0086 151 9380 3972
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I fully agree with you that there should be a parallel standard for systems on-site.
Bill Gates toilet revoltion is bringing us to a expensive and sophiscated way of handling the human waste. Toilet is a toilet , not a system.
Asia and Africa can not afford to wait for Gates' next generation toilet.
best wishes
Scott
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We would be happy to hear of any updates on this document being made available at a lower cost for practitioners and decision makers in low-income countries.
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Perhaps we need a parallel standard for systems constructed on-site. I do not think this will be too difficult, and may be useful to a number of practitioners and decision makers in Africa and Asia?
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