Standards or norms for design of Community and Public toilet

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Re: Standards or norms for design of Community and Public toilet

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We have started a discussion on the SuSanA India Chapter on rural community sanitary complexes. Some of the resources here would be really useful there. Can I request Andres and Mr Jha to share their comments there also.

The link is forum.susana.org/forum/?view=topic&catid...&id=24382&start=1000

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Re: Standards or norms for design of Community and Public toilet

Hi,
I wanted to also share the female-friendly public and community toilet guide, which gives useful suggestions for how to ensure that the facilities cater to the requirements of women, girls, people with disabilities: washmatters.wateraid.org/publications/fe...-and-decision-makers
It also has a list of resources that captures many global and regional standards.
The SBM guide you shared incorporates already some of the features included in the guide.
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Re: Standards or norms for design of Community and Public toilet

Hi Elisabeth,

Thanks for the note.

We have now been using a advisory that Govt. of India has published for Community and public toilets under the national programme Swachh Bharat Mission.

Here is the link to the guidelines : 164.100.228.143:8080/sbm/content/writere...munuity%20Toilet.pdf

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Re: Standards or norms for design of Community and Public toilet

Dear Elisabeth and All

For community / public toilets there are standard norms by Bureau of Indian Standards (BIS) 1993. The norms mention details of no. of users (men and women) per WC for community toilets and public toilets for different locations, like bus stands, railway stations, vegetable markets, other shopping centres, factories, office buildings, restaurants etc. It also mentions recommended size of toilet cubicles, bath rooms, urinals, washing area etc.
There are several guidelines on public/ community toilets released by the Ministry of Urban Affairs, Government of India and some state governments. All guidelines follow the same Standards of BIS 1993.
You can find norms of users of public toilets for different locations in the Guidelines for Public and Community toilets Managed by Cities in Andhra Pradesh, submitted by the GIZ to the State Government in 2016. It has a lot of useful information. I was involved in preparing the manuscript of the guidelines. Below is the link:
sac.ap.gov.in/sac/UserInterface/Downlaod...0PT%20Guidelines.pdf
Last month, I prepared a complete manuscript on Operational Guidelines for Community Sanitary Complexes in Rural Areas in Bihar State for the World Bank. It is in the process of release by the Bank / State Government. Operation and Management of CSCs in rural areas is a major challenge as (i) pay and use of toilet is not affordable by the targeted groups and (ii) sustainable and safe management of human wastes, as most of the areas are unsewered. Different options to cover these two challenging points are highlighted in the Guidelines.
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Re: Standards or norms for design of Community and Public toilet

Dear Aasim,
You asked the question about standards back in March 2013 ("Are there any norms / standards for design of Community toilet and a public toilet available ?"). Just to close the loop: which document(s) would you now recommend for this purpose? Did you delvelop your own standard or found one that you really like?

(that book that you mentioned from the World Toilet Organization ("ICC G3-2011 Global Guideline for Practical Public Toilet Design") is unfortunately not available for free as far as I can see, e.g.:
shop.iccsafe.org/icc-g3-2011-global-guid...toilet-design-1.html]


Dear Shayontoni,

Could you clarify two statements in your post as I didn't understand them?

Usually 1 for every 25 women but that's ridiculous.

- what value do you recommend or find practical in terms of costs-benefits?

Another thumb rule for CTCs [Community Toilet Complexes] is that it should cater to 5 meter radii.

- are you saying there should be a toilet complex every 10 metres? That seems rather close together?

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Re: Standards or norms for design of Community and Public toilet

Dear Aasim.

For Community Toilet Complexes we usually take a thumb rule of 1 seat for 25 - 30 persons. Usually 1 for every 25 women but that's ridiculous.

There are no norms for bathing areas or child friendly seats.

Another thumb rule for CTCs is that it should cater to 5 meter radii. However, as I have seen with slums, during peak hours, due to the density of population and lack of household toilet, the CTCs can become unusable and encourage defecating in the open. So finalization of number of seats can be arrived at, by meeting with the community aside from the thumb rule.

This is the case for a CTC, which will obviously differ in case of a Public Toilet having a floating population.

Hope that helps!

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Re: Standards or norms for design of Community and Public toilet

Hi Jonathan and Ben,

Thanks for the documents. Please find attached document on Global Guideline for Practical Public Toilet Design for your reference.


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Jonathan : In Indian context we also found only this one document that you shared with us --guidelines for community toilets by Ministry of urban affairs and employment , GOI.

Thanks.

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Dear Aasim,

I doubt that it will be very usefull for you but for the other francophones community members, I attach the french norms for public toilets.

In French:
Je doute que ces documents ne vous soient très utiles, mais pour les membres francophones de ce forum je vous joins les deux normes réglementant les toilettes publiques en france.

Cordialement,

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Re: Standards or norms for design of Community and Public toilet

Dear Aasim, greetings from Bangalore where I am currently working with CDD-BORDA. We have also been discussing guidelines for management/regulation of communal/public toilets and we'd be interested to know what you came up with. Attached are a few documents that I found on the internet. best regards, Jonathan
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Re: Standards or norms for design of Community and Public toilet

Hi Carol,

Thanks for the document. i will surely share with you documents on standards that i find.

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Re: Standards or norms for design of Community and Public toilet

Hi, Assim,

Here are a couple of things that might be helpful:
  1. Global Guideline for Practical Public Toilet Design ICC G3-2011. World Toilet Organization and International Code Council Development Committee, 2011 shop.iccsafe.org/icc-g3-2011-global-guid...toilet-design-1.html Unfortunately, it looks like you have to buy it but here is an overview. shop.iccsafe.org/media/wysiwyg/material/7053S11-toc.pdf
  2. Toilet Design Resourceshttp://www.phlush.org/public-restroom-planning/books/
  3. PHLUSH Public Restroom Design Principles. www.phlush.org/public-restroom-planning/...m-design-principles/
I am interested to see what else you find. Good luck.

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Standards or norms for design of Community and Public toilet

Hi All,

Are there any norms / standards for design of Community toilet and a public toilet available ? in terms of number of persons per toilet seat, bathing unit etc and at what distances should this facility be located from the settlements etc.

Please do share this norms/standards with us.

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