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Re: Partners wanted for Ghana
We do not have a MAKER in Malaysia; if you have connections to a local artesan (typically a mason), we can arrange for training. Contact me at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Steve is there an online list of gsap microflush makers?
Am in malaysia
Am in malaysia
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We continue to train GSAP Microflush toilet MAKERs around the world. I had a look at your website and note your mobile number in Ghana. I will have one of our toilet MAKERs in Ghana contact you there so that you can see one of our systems and r project in more detail.
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Dear Kobina from Solid Rock Association,
I am sure Steve will reply soon on this, but in the meantime, have a look at this thread where we discussed his toilet design (the Biofil toilet) in the past (2 pages of discussions):
forum.susana.org/forum/categories/106-us...roject-usa-and-ghana
At some point during the process they recieved a small amount of funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
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I am sure Steve will reply soon on this, but in the meantime, have a look at this thread where we discussed his toilet design (the Biofil toilet) in the past (2 pages of discussions):
forum.susana.org/forum/categories/106-us...roject-usa-and-ghana
At some point during the process they recieved a small amount of funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
Kind regards,
Elisabeth
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Guys from solidrock, please accept my apologies but I have to admit, I am struggling to get my head around 1,000 sterling per toilet.
Both from the initial capex and ongoing opex - and the resultant roi from your revenue projections - it just seems like the numbers are out of proportion for the result
GBP50,000 = 250,000 GHS (I understand that GHC is obsolete?)
average Ghanian annual salary GHS29,669.16 / $10,483.80 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Ghana
From solidrock, the numbers (my comments in brackets after):
* GBP25000 / GHS125,000 goes into building the toilet facility with 20 seats (seems could be done much cheaper to me)
* GBP15000 / GHS75,000 goes into community sanitation education activities for one year (3 local people full time?)
* GBP10000 / GHS50,000 goes into developing organisational capacity. (2 local people full time?)
Again, I may be missing something fundamental here (and I will happily accept that if pointed out), but if it was me being asked for the funding, I would be asking for a redraft of the project plan and a reconsideration of the funding levels.
Both from the initial capex and ongoing opex - and the resultant roi from your revenue projections - it just seems like the numbers are out of proportion for the result
GBP50,000 = 250,000 GHS (I understand that GHC is obsolete?)
average Ghanian annual salary GHS29,669.16 / $10,483.80 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Ghana
From solidrock, the numbers (my comments in brackets after):
* GBP25000 / GHS125,000 goes into building the toilet facility with 20 seats (seems could be done much cheaper to me)
* GBP15000 / GHS75,000 goes into community sanitation education activities for one year (3 local people full time?)
* GBP10000 / GHS50,000 goes into developing organisational capacity. (2 local people full time?)
Again, I may be missing something fundamental here (and I will happily accept that if pointed out), but if it was me being asked for the funding, I would be asking for a redraft of the project plan and a reconsideration of the funding levels.
Creator of the RealChange Global Impact Fund and MCM GREENMAN GROUP
Solving housing quality , power reliability, water supply and sanitation management in developing countries with private sector impact investors money
Philosophy
* See a problem.
* Make sure it's the real problem (by talking to the people with the problem).
* Find people who are solving this problem somewhere in the world and collaborate - and learn from them to solve the problem
OR
* Create a new solution where none exists
* Find passionate people who care about the problem to help implement solutions
Our solution approach - what's yours?
Dennis McMahon
From Australia; based in Malaysia
www.mcmgreenmangroup.com (R & D and project implementation)
www.RealChangeImpact.com
Funding from the private sector, giving market level returns
Solving housing quality , power reliability, water supply and sanitation management in developing countries with private sector impact investors money
Philosophy
* See a problem.
* Make sure it's the real problem (by talking to the people with the problem).
* Find people who are solving this problem somewhere in the world and collaborate - and learn from them to solve the problem
OR
* Create a new solution where none exists
* Find passionate people who care about the problem to help implement solutions
Our solution approach - what's yours?
Dennis McMahon
From Australia; based in Malaysia
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Re: Partners wanted for Ghana
What sort of toilets and systems ate you using?
And it works out to a little over 1,000 sterling each toilet correct?
And it works out to a little over 1,000 sterling each toilet correct?
Creator of the RealChange Global Impact Fund and MCM GREENMAN GROUP
Solving housing quality , power reliability, water supply and sanitation management in developing countries with private sector impact investors money
Philosophy
* See a problem.
* Make sure it's the real problem (by talking to the people with the problem).
* Find people who are solving this problem somewhere in the world and collaborate - and learn from them to solve the problem
OR
* Create a new solution where none exists
* Find passionate people who care about the problem to help implement solutions
Our solution approach - what's yours?
Dennis McMahon
From Australia; based in Malaysia
www.mcmgreenmangroup.com (R & D and project implementation)
www.RealChangeImpact.com
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Solving housing quality , power reliability, water supply and sanitation management in developing countries with private sector impact investors money
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* Make sure it's the real problem (by talking to the people with the problem).
* Find people who are solving this problem somewhere in the world and collaborate - and learn from them to solve the problem
OR
* Create a new solution where none exists
* Find passionate people who care about the problem to help implement solutions
Our solution approach - what's yours?
Dennis McMahon
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Thank you, the Tbanks refers to the number of unit seats or the number toilet rooms.
We are targeting at lest 450 people using the facility every day meaning that at least 22 people would use one toilet seat.
revenues from the daily usage would amount to
daily 20GP *450
90GHC
Weekly 90 * 7 days
630GHC
Monthly 630* 4 weeks
2520 GHC
yearly 2520 *12 Months
30240 GHC
30240 GHC
6066.7 Pound sterling
25000 pounds goes into building the toilet facility with 20 seats
15000 goes into community sanitation education activities for one year
10000 goes into developing organisational capacity.
We are targeting at lest 450 people using the facility every day meaning that at least 22 people would use one toilet seat.
revenues from the daily usage would amount to
daily 20GP *450
90GHC
Weekly 90 * 7 days
630GHC
Monthly 630* 4 weeks
2520 GHC
yearly 2520 *12 Months
30240 GHC
30240 GHC
6066.7 Pound sterling
25000 pounds goes into building the toilet facility with 20 seats
15000 goes into community sanitation education activities for one year
10000 goes into developing organisational capacity.
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Thank you, sounds like improvements definitely needed
Can you advise what type of toilets the Tbanks are?
I see they will require no waste removal; also i need to read more closely but is the 50k sterling the cost of the additional Tbanks and other work?
Perhaps you could provide a little more detail on the numbers (costs and revenues) and the business model?
Can you advise what type of toilets the Tbanks are?
I see they will require no waste removal; also i need to read more closely but is the 50k sterling the cost of the additional Tbanks and other work?
Perhaps you could provide a little more detail on the numbers (costs and revenues) and the business model?
Creator of the RealChange Global Impact Fund and MCM GREENMAN GROUP
Solving housing quality , power reliability, water supply and sanitation management in developing countries with private sector impact investors money
Philosophy
* See a problem.
* Make sure it's the real problem (by talking to the people with the problem).
* Find people who are solving this problem somewhere in the world and collaborate - and learn from them to solve the problem
OR
* Create a new solution where none exists
* Find passionate people who care about the problem to help implement solutions
Our solution approach - what's yours?
Dennis McMahon
From Australia; based in Malaysia
www.mcmgreenmangroup.com (R & D and project implementation)
www.RealChangeImpact.com
Funding from the private sector, giving market level returns
Solving housing quality , power reliability, water supply and sanitation management in developing countries with private sector impact investors money
Philosophy
* See a problem.
* Make sure it's the real problem (by talking to the people with the problem).
* Find people who are solving this problem somewhere in the world and collaborate - and learn from them to solve the problem
OR
* Create a new solution where none exists
* Find passionate people who care about the problem to help implement solutions
Our solution approach - what's yours?
Dennis McMahon
From Australia; based in Malaysia
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www.RealChangeImpact.com
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Hello Denniskl
Thank you
Solid Rock Association is seeking partnership to help solve the current toilet system in the LEKMA community which collects waste into septic tanks, and are occasionally pumped out and the waste is discarded off-site. Most of the waste is brought to illegal dumping sites to be discarded, usually into the ocean, leading to further risk of contamination of the water.
Currently, the Solid Rock Association has installed two toilet banks at a space provided and in collaboration with the LEKMA Metropolitan Assembly newly in operation. But due to popular demand, and the magnitude of the sanitation issue in the communities; more Tbanks are needed to be installed. Hence, the Funds will be used to install 20 more toilet systems of which will be used by all.
Also part of the money will be used to fence, floor & wall tile the facility in terms of partly ensuring security and protection. These toilet units do not use a septic tank and requires
The established banks do not only reduce operating costs by eliminating fees paid to pump-truck operators, it is also environmentally friendly and highly sanitary. If used correctly, the system requires little maintenance at all.
This space is used as a temporary lorry park and has no public toilet facility. Installation and commencement of usage by community is expected within a month. It is worthwhile to mention that the main target group for this project are the local community women, drivers and passengers, children, squatters, poverty stricken and the deprived.
Goal: This concept proposes to install four (20) toilet banks at a community space behind LEKMA Hospital which will say no to defecation around in the LEKMA community.
(b) Objectives to achieve goal:
• To increase sanitation whose absence has plagued a lot of children into poor health conditions
• The project could serve to prevent open defecation in the community
• To reduce the rampant incidence of disease locally known as white contracted among women from the latrine toilet currently in existence through information dissemination
Explanation on sustainability of the project
The purpose of the sanitation project for partnership, is to use income generated from investment to setup a small micro-finance fund for local community women to benefit. This is the project’s sustainability plan over time. Very moderate fees will be charged from users of the toilet facility.
As far as this project is concern, 450 people are expected to benefit on a daily basis. The Ledzokuku Krowor Municipality has committed itself to a partnership with the community has offered the lands needed for the project as a collaborator. As already mentioned, these 450 users will pay 600 GHC per week to use the system. Using this method and assuming minimized profit margin, a micro-finance grant will be setup out of this profit, for local women to benefit as already mentioned. Here sustainability of the project, environmental sanitation management and supporting women can be called justified.
50,000 Pounds sterling
Thank you
Solid Rock Association is seeking partnership to help solve the current toilet system in the LEKMA community which collects waste into septic tanks, and are occasionally pumped out and the waste is discarded off-site. Most of the waste is brought to illegal dumping sites to be discarded, usually into the ocean, leading to further risk of contamination of the water.
Currently, the Solid Rock Association has installed two toilet banks at a space provided and in collaboration with the LEKMA Metropolitan Assembly newly in operation. But due to popular demand, and the magnitude of the sanitation issue in the communities; more Tbanks are needed to be installed. Hence, the Funds will be used to install 20 more toilet systems of which will be used by all.
Also part of the money will be used to fence, floor & wall tile the facility in terms of partly ensuring security and protection. These toilet units do not use a septic tank and requires
The established banks do not only reduce operating costs by eliminating fees paid to pump-truck operators, it is also environmentally friendly and highly sanitary. If used correctly, the system requires little maintenance at all.
This space is used as a temporary lorry park and has no public toilet facility. Installation and commencement of usage by community is expected within a month. It is worthwhile to mention that the main target group for this project are the local community women, drivers and passengers, children, squatters, poverty stricken and the deprived.
Goal: This concept proposes to install four (20) toilet banks at a community space behind LEKMA Hospital which will say no to defecation around in the LEKMA community.
(b) Objectives to achieve goal:
• To increase sanitation whose absence has plagued a lot of children into poor health conditions
• The project could serve to prevent open defecation in the community
• To reduce the rampant incidence of disease locally known as white contracted among women from the latrine toilet currently in existence through information dissemination
Explanation on sustainability of the project
The purpose of the sanitation project for partnership, is to use income generated from investment to setup a small micro-finance fund for local community women to benefit. This is the project’s sustainability plan over time. Very moderate fees will be charged from users of the toilet facility.
As far as this project is concern, 450 people are expected to benefit on a daily basis. The Ledzokuku Krowor Municipality has committed itself to a partnership with the community has offered the lands needed for the project as a collaborator. As already mentioned, these 450 users will pay 600 GHC per week to use the system. Using this method and assuming minimized profit margin, a micro-finance grant will be setup out of this profit, for local women to benefit as already mentioned. Here sustainability of the project, environmental sanitation management and supporting women can be called justified.
50,000 Pounds sterling
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Hello Kobina
Do you have a partnering or engagement brief you can share? Is it a provider fo full solutions or technology / systems (ie toilet types) or consulktant expertise or any of these things?
Brief should include things like:
I previously prepared a questionnaire on sanitation for another project
(see the Susana posting here
forum.susana.org/forum/categories?func=v...&id=11665&limit=1000
and the questionnaire here
docs.google.com/forms/d/1kuxJAjz4ryRjg9X...43flEQ1e0HLEcNA/edit) in case it helps
It's for a specific community, and your need may be country wide, but at the end of the day, each community will have different needs so this exercise is useful
Kobina, please advise where and how you need help, many Susana community members would love to be involved I know
Do you have a partnering or engagement brief you can share? Is it a provider fo full solutions or technology / systems (ie toilet types) or consulktant expertise or any of these things?
Brief should include things like:
- Locations
- Total Population in need
- Number of communities
- Objectives of programme
- Current status
- and more
I previously prepared a questionnaire on sanitation for another project
(see the Susana posting here
forum.susana.org/forum/categories?func=v...&id=11665&limit=1000
and the questionnaire here
docs.google.com/forms/d/1kuxJAjz4ryRjg9X...43flEQ1e0HLEcNA/edit) in case it helps
It's for a specific community, and your need may be country wide, but at the end of the day, each community will have different needs so this exercise is useful
Kobina, please advise where and how you need help, many Susana community members would love to be involved I know
Creator of the RealChange Global Impact Fund and MCM GREENMAN GROUP
Solving housing quality , power reliability, water supply and sanitation management in developing countries with private sector impact investors money
Philosophy
* See a problem.
* Make sure it's the real problem (by talking to the people with the problem).
* Find people who are solving this problem somewhere in the world and collaborate - and learn from them to solve the problem
OR
* Create a new solution where none exists
* Find passionate people who care about the problem to help implement solutions
Our solution approach - what's yours?
Dennis McMahon
From Australia; based in Malaysia
www.mcmgreenmangroup.com (R & D and project implementation)
www.RealChangeImpact.com
Funding from the private sector, giving market level returns
Solving housing quality , power reliability, water supply and sanitation management in developing countries with private sector impact investors money
Philosophy
* See a problem.
* Make sure it's the real problem (by talking to the people with the problem).
* Find people who are solving this problem somewhere in the world and collaborate - and learn from them to solve the problem
OR
* Create a new solution where none exists
* Find passionate people who care about the problem to help implement solutions
Our solution approach - what's yours?
Dennis McMahon
From Australia; based in Malaysia
www.mcmgreenmangroup.com (R & D and project implementation)
www.RealChangeImpact.com
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