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Recently came across this interesting document:
www.ids.ac.uk/publication/the-dynamics-a...llenges-and-pathways
As we have been discussing the more "philosophical" challenges of CTLS, it seemed to fit rather well here.
www.ids.ac.uk/publication/the-dynamics-a...llenges-and-pathways
As we have been discussing the more "philosophical" challenges of CTLS, it seemed to fit rather well here.
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Also relevant:
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dech.12075/abstract
"In Indonesia as elsewhere, CLTS involves more than just education and encouragement; it uses social shaming and punishments. The authors argue that this is not only an inadequate approach but one which echoes coercive, race-based colonial public health practices."
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dech.12075/abstract
"In Indonesia as elsewhere, CLTS involves more than just education and encouragement; it uses social shaming and punishments. The authors argue that this is not only an inadequate approach but one which echoes coercive, race-based colonial public health practices."
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This open access article is well worth reading. It contains harsh criticisms of how the WSP/World Bank implemented the CLTS approach in Indonesia. Interested to hear their response. See the post in Sanitation Updates,
wp.me/paGBZ-2wM
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Re: CLTS and human rights: Should the right to community-wide health be won at the cost of individual rights?

I can only repeat:
forum.susana.org/forum/categories/5-clts...mit=12&start=12#6794
I would be very interested in the views on CLTS of colleagues from Africa, Asia and America!
Regards,
Detlef
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I would be very interested in the views on CLTS of colleagues from Africa, Asia and America!
Regards,
Detlef
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Re: CLTS and human rights: Should the right to community-wide health be won at the cost of individual rights?

Hi all,
My first posting - I'm one of the authors of the article about CLTS in Indonesia. I do agree Detlef that human rights issues are global, as an Australian our treatment of refugees arriving by boat at the moment appals me but equally nothing will change at any level if we don't speak out against it!
I'm also hoping for some response from the World Bank, we sent it to the Jakarta office, so we'll see. But in the meantime the response from others interested in sanitation has been great. The question is how do we keep the debate and scrutiny of CLTS going? Any suggestions?
Best,
Susan
My first posting - I'm one of the authors of the article about CLTS in Indonesia. I do agree Detlef that human rights issues are global, as an Australian our treatment of refugees arriving by boat at the moment appals me but equally nothing will change at any level if we don't speak out against it!

I'm also hoping for some response from the World Bank, we sent it to the Jakarta office, so we'll see. But in the meantime the response from others interested in sanitation has been great. The question is how do we keep the debate and scrutiny of CLTS going? Any suggestions?
Best,
Susan
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