Dear Esther and all,

I am currently looking over older forum posts that have unanswered questions. There are still questions in your post from 9 Nov that were not answered by Tom or Rick. Could we still investigate possible answers? Some of the questions cut really deep and are difficult to answer but let's not give up on finding answers just yet. Perhaps other forum readers may wish to comment, too.

Seems like it was a really rish webinar, going by the log of the chat discussions! Thanks for writing it up so well, by the way. Sounds like we need further webinars on this important topic.

Regards,
Elisabeth

Here is the recording from the webinar held on Nov 9, 2017.

Thank you all for attending,

I am attaching a copy of the presentation for you to have and to take in all the information Tom and Rick gave.

The discussion afterwards was really interesting and showed the variety of work we do within the sanitation sector and how the JMP data is being used and understood to support this. I am summarising some of the questions below to encourage some discussion on the forum. If you would like to put any more questions to Tom and Rick please post them here and I will make sure they see them.

Thanks again
Esther
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Rob Pickersgill: JMP reports often note the difficulty of gathering data from urban informal settlements. Are there any plans / ways that you see this improves in the future? All the extra detail your talking about sounds like it means more complicated household surveys, which must put a burden on the data collection side of things! (But definitely a step forward - I look forward to seeing what trends we see!)

• Tom Slaymaker (UNICEF): @Rob good question. These data are based on national surveys. In most cases these include informal settlements but very few disaggregate informal settlements from the rest of the urban population. For this reason it is difficult for us to report these separately. The biggest problem is the lack of a clear and commonly agreed definition of 'informal settlement' or 'slum' which allows comparison across countries.

Daniel (GIZ): I have got three questions: 1) Why is reporting on "improved" access is still so prominent (i know the reference to sdg1) - I think this is misleading and a serious issue. 2) Data on safely managed services is still lacking for many least developed countries. Do you expect a further reduction of the global access estimate once data is available? 3) How do you interpret contradictions between sector data and JMP data: e.g: in Burkina Faso the sector (ONEA) reports an increase inurban access to piped water from 59% to 89% (2006-2015) , in contrast JMP reports a decrease by 4% in the same period. Thanks!

• @Daniel as Rick notes the improved/unimproved classification still provides the foundation for estimating the population using basic and safely managed services but is much less prominent in our reporting.

Alok Kumar Majumder, WASH SDG Program Simavi, Bangladesh: Why hygienic shared latrine could not be accepted as safely manged sanitation? In slum area, it is nearly impossible to ensure latrine in each family.

• Tom Slaymaker (UNICEF): Here's that editorial on shared sanitation... washdev.iwaponline.com/content/ppiwajwsh...ev.2017.023.full.pdf

Nina Odenwälder: The interpretation of „basic services“ in the SDG 1 to equal the “basic services” definition by JMP is very questionable in my view. E.g. the Multi-Dimensional Poverty Index integrates water and sanitation in their standard of living assessment. From here, it is clear that it is about access to clean drinking water. And the slump in the global access figures that “improved sources” is just not an appropriate proxy to safe drinking water. It should also not be a policy advice to the countries, to attain a certain level of coverage of improved services, no matter what the actual water quality.

• Tom Slaymaker (UNICEF): (From Rick) @Nina, we do cover basic before safely managed in the report, since safely managed builds upon basic. Also we have higher data coverage for basic, and can look at trends and inequalities in much more detail than for safely managed.

Lotte: Given that there is very little data on safely managed services in rural areas and also limited increase to be foreseen at least for water, there is a danger that strong focus on "safely managed" will bias donor towards investing in urban areas rather than rural. What can be done to manage this?

• Tom Slaymaker (UNICEF): (From Rick) @Lotte, we find that many countries are very interested in improving both data coverage and quality of services in rural areas, and in many cases donors are willing to support work along those lines, which may contribute to basic services, or to individual elements of safe management (e.g. water quality).
• Tom Slaymaker (UNICEF): (From Rick) @Lotte, it's also important to recognize that safely managed sanitation services can be achieved with on-site sanitation, and that this is very achievable in rural areas. Safe disposal in situ is a valid pathway into safely managed sanitation.

Jerry van den Berge: related to Lotte's question: urbaization makes that governments and donors prioritise services in cities, which in turn encourages people to move to cities, self-enforcing process starts. Rural areas will remain behind. Do you have examples of countries/ donors that invest in / prioritise rural areas?

Sanna and Pamela: In some locations in Nepal we have the measurement problem that while all households own a toilet, menstruating women are not allowed to use it. Also there are those who own a toilet but choose not to – eg. Concerns re filling it up, or have a difficulty of father-in-law and daughter-in-law not being able to share; or just aren’t interested/convinced – any suggestions as to how this could be captured in the SDGs

• Tom Slaymaker (UNICEF): (From Rick) @Sanna, we are recommending new questions in household surveys around menstrual hygiene management, including on exclusion that women face during their periods. The 2014 MICS survey in Nepal is a good example of this, which showed both moderate and severe kinds of exclusion.
• Tom Slaymaker (UNICEF): The MICS Nepal 2014 report includes the questionnaire and results on menstrual hygiene management: unicef.org.np/media-centre/reports-and-p...ey-2014-final-report
• Tom Slaymaker (UNICEF): Core questions for WASH in Schools including MHM are here: washdata.org/report/jmp-2016-core-questi...rs-monitoring-wins-0

Stuart: I'd be interested to hear further rationale on use of 'basic' in 1.4, beyond linguistic equivalence. Couple more questions: (1) is there an update on when the methodology used for regional estimates will be published? (2) interested to hear more on how you decided on the 'threshold' for making estimates (e.g. 30% for safely managed vs. 50% for basic)? And third question: any plans in future reports to look at how many households have water + sanitation + hygiene together? (even a small snapshot might be interesting)

JALADHI: Will the MICS survey will include leakage in pits / septic tank?

Doreen Mbalo (GIZ): In densely populated low income areas where space, cost is an issue, shared facilities have proven to be acceptable within household/plots therefore we need to sub-categorize and adopt a more nuanced approach towards "shared sanitation" If well managed, shared facilities have proven to be acceptable. Good example is UBSUP Kenya.

Neven: In regard to ODF, are there any thoughts going beyond a snapshop assessment to determine a lifelong status and adding in a criteria which is time-based. For example, we see that there seasonal changes in rural communities which has impacted this, but there is currently no system to address this issue statistically.

Danilo Padilla ITCC: I have observed and at the same time informed of the effort that is being put in the continents; African, Asian and in the same Europe, not so in my region Central America, Why?

• Tom Slaymaker (UNICEF): (From Rick) @Danilo, there is definitely a lot of work going on in Latin America, and both UNICEF and PAHO/WHO are engaged there. I think the language barrier does restrict the degree to which experiences are shared in both directions. We have been working closely with partners in Ecuador, Paraguay, Mexico etc in the 2017 report.

Ellen Greggio: many countries governments particularly in Asia and Africa are trying to adapt their national MIS to align with SDGs indicators – this has a large impact on how data is supposed to be analysed by governments – eg. at HH or at service (e.g. water system) which often do not overlap in these regions. This is often the reason for the large discrepancy in data between JMP and Government. What is the recommendations for the National MIS data – should it become more aligned?

• Tom Slaymaker (UNICEF): (From Rick) @Ellen, we work with many countries to align national monitoring systems witht he SDG framework. Important to note though the the base of "population using improved facilities" is best when it comes from population-based sources like surveys, rather than administrative sources such as coverage estimates. However, information on service levels usually needs to come from sectoral data sources

Nina Odenwälder: And reporting on basic services so prominently is not clear to me from Tom’s explanation, that they do so that “as safely manged builds on basic”. First, no, it doesn’t build on that - it builds on improved/unimproved as the round trip time is not accounted for, but the standard is “on premises”. The quality of the drinking water is so essential that I do not understand how one can stick to the service level classification only. JMP undertook extensive studies on the water quality typically related to the sources types (all include in the service ladder), in the meta analysis of available literature. Could one not do a modelling of the typical water quality per source (adjusted to context, like rural urban, possibly wealth of the country etc) and adjust the figures by that? Or include direct water tests in household surveys (what ever became of the idea to mainstream this into household surveys)?

Roel Blesgraaf: Could you please elaborate on how you dealt with refugee camps, especially those who exist for more than ten years? E.g. in Lebanon and Jordan this will heavily affect the figures.

• Tom Slaymaker (UNICEF): (From Rick) @Roel, in principle we seek data that cover all people living within a country, including non-citizens and refugees. In practice, these populations may be left out of household surveys and official statistics. We are working with UNHCR to see if we could make a joint analysis of the WASH situation in camps and host communities, this would probably be a customised analysis that we could produce in the future.

Jesus Melendez: What about relying more on citizen generated data, specially that gathered by civil society and grassroots organizations to establish dialogues with governments on improviding of certain services and changes to certain policies. Thinking for example of initiatives like Datashift from CIvicus (civicus.org/thedatashift/)

ARNO ROSEMARIN (SEI): How far off track was the world in 2015 (MDG target). What is the prognosis for 100% coverage by 2030? Are the most needy countries receiving increased attention?

• Tom Slaymaker (UNICEF): (From Rick) @Arno, we had that graph showing the rates of progress by country... the back tables in the report also show the annual rate of change for regions and the world. From 2000-2015 basic sanitation increased by 0.63 percentage points per year. With 68 percent of the population in 2015 having at least basic services, the world would need to see progress at more than 2 percentage points per year to reach universal basic by 2030.

Sanna and Pamela: Do you have any suggestions on the measurement for indicator 6.b? We are working with municipality WASH Units and would like to consider these as 'local administrative units' as defined in indicator 6.b.1

Freya Mills: A question regarding definitions: Unimproved sanitation includes flush/pour flush toilets to drains: How are combined sewers/drains considered? I know of many cities in SEAsia that use this type of sewerage, with some ambiguity what is called a sewer or drain. What is considered a “drain” rather than “sewer”? And are there certain situations when combined sewerage is considered safe?

ARNO ROSEMARIN (SEI): Is JMP monitoring mortality rates due to contaminated water among children under 5 years of age? What about the 4.5 billion people lacking safe services? Is SDG6 aimed to fulfil this gap? It's no longer coverage but safe and functional coverage. As you published recently in the IWA journal.

Mamadou Lamine DIARRA: In some countries, planning and statistics units have been established in the various ministries to improve data quality. Other countries have even created national observatories for sustainable development. What are the links between JMP (WHO, UNICEF) and these structures? What roles do these structures have in national committees for achieving the SDGs?

Thank you very much Esther for organising it and thanks to the presenters Tom Slaymaker and Rick Johnston who are part of the JMP team.
I look forward to them answering the remaining questions that couldnt be answered during the 90 minutes.

Best regards,

Doreen

The JMP webinar is happening on 9 November. While the JMP report is on everyone’s mind, we’d like to get Sanitation Wikipedia top of mind, too. Of the 70 articles we’re upgrading for World Toilet Day (ten days from now), fewer than 10 now reference the JMP 2017 report. We’ve picked 15 articles that especially need to be upgraded by citing current JMP data.

After the webinar or anytime in the next ten days, here’s how you could help:
1. Pick one article from the below list of 15, and click on it to read the Wikipedia article.
2. As you read, look for a place to insert one or more sentences citing JMP 2017 data. Here's the link to the JMP Report: www.unwater.org/publications/whounicef-j...sdg-baselines.Here's the link to the JMP Report .
3. If the article already references earlier JMP data (e.g. from 2014) rewrite the sentence(s) to include the latest figures.

Two choices for upgrading the article:
1. Email those sentences and the citation to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and the Sanitation Wikipedia team will happily update the article using your recommendation.
2. Join the Sanitation Wikpedia team here and insert the content and citation yourself. Once you register, go to the article and click on the “edit” tab. It’s that easy.

Fecal sludge management
Fecal-oral route
Hand washing
Human right to water and sanitation
Hygiene
Improved sanitation
Open defecation
Public health
Public toilet
Self-supply of water and sanitation
Stunted growth
Sustainable development goals
Sustainable sanitation
Waterborne diseases
World Toilet Day

Here are two examples of how the JMP 2017 report has been cited.
Improved Sanitation article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improved_sanitation#cite_ref-JMP2014_1-0
Open Defecation article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_defecation#cite_ref-JMP2017_1-0

Dear Roel,

Sorry about that. That was done by mistake. I have re-opened the webinar registrations. We have currently 167 people registered.

Sign up for the webinar here: www.susana.org/en/JMPwebinar

I am looking forward to the webinar! The room only holds 100 so it's a matter of "first come first served". But luckily there will be the youtube stream for the overflow, like Esther mentioned above.

(Side note: Once I have tuned my head into the new SDG6 terminology and numbers, I plan to ensure various Wikipedia articles are updated accordingly. I hope others will help me with that!)

Regards,
Elisabeth

Is it still possible to join the webinar tomorrow? I saw the registration is closed.
Thanks,

Roel

I would like to remind you about the SuSanA webinar TOMORROW ‘Update from the JMP team monitoring WASH progress towards SDG 6’ scheduled for November 9th at 14:00 CET (Stockholm time).

Log-on information:
1.To join the meeting please follow this link: seint.adobeconnect.com/seiwebinar/
2.Choose to enter as a guest
3.For those wanting to use a webcam and microphone you will need a speed around 4-5mbit/s plus a headset or earbuds. You can enter the webinar up to 45 minutes in advance to check your audio settings.
4.It is recommended you close skype before starting the Adobe Connect platform to avoid issues with sound or microphone use.

Please note we are able to host up to 100 people in the webinar room. If the room fills up the webinar will be available to watch via the SuSanA youtube channel. The link will be posted here forum.susana.org/146-webinars-and-online...ogress-towards-sdg-6

Overview:
In July the WHO/UNICEF Joint Monitoring Programme for Water Supply, Sanitation and Hygiene (JMP) published its 2017 update which established baseline estimates for the new SDG global indicators and includes a wealth of new information on inequalities in service levels. This webinar will include a presentation of the main findings of the 2017 update followed by an opportunity to quiz the JMP team on the new definitions and the data gaps that need to be addressed for enhanced monitoring of WASH services in the context of the 2030 Agenda.

Presenters:
Tom Slaymaker: Senior Statistics and Monitoring Specialist (WASH)
Rick Johnston: Technical Officer at JMP

Schedule: The webinar be will up to 90 minutes including an open discussion with the JMP project team. We will also open the session 45 minutes beforehand so you can test your video or microphone and meet other participants.

Time:
08:00 New York/Washington DC
13:00 London
14:00 Stockholm
16:00 Nairobi
18:30 New Delhi
20:00 Hanoi

Check your local times here: www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

See you in the webinar!
Esther

In July the WHO/UNICEF Joint Monitoring Programme for Water Supply, Sanitation and Hygiene (JMP) published its 2017 update which established baseline estimates for the new SDG global indicators and includes a wealth of new information on inequalities in service levels. This webinar will include a presentation of the main findings of the 2017 update followed by an opportunity to quiz the JMP team on the new definitions and the data gaps that need to be addressed for enhanced monitoring of WASH services in the context of the 2030 Agenda.

SuSanA will be hosting a webinar with Tom Slaymaker and Rick Johnston who are part of the JMP team carrying out the monitoring. Join us to find out more on 9th November at 1400 Stockholm time.

Sign up for the webinar here: www.susana.org/en/JMPwebinar

Updates about the webinar will be posted in this thread.

regards
Esther