SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication http://forum.susana.org/ Sat, 20 Dec 2014 15:48:07 +0000 Kunena 1.6 http://forum.susana.org/components/com_kunena/template/default/images/icons/rss.png SuSanA - Forum http://forum.susana.org/ en-gb Re: "Fishing" for solid waste in a pit latrine - have you seen people do it? (example from Malawi) - by: dandreatta http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/11128-qfishingq-for-solid-waste-in-a-pit-latrine-have-you-seen-people-do-it-example-from-malawi#11386 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/11128-qfishingq-for-solid-waste-in-a-pit-latrine-have-you-seen-people-do-it-example-from-malawi#11386


Again, this shows the preliminary version of a simple device to empty pit latrines and septic tanks without the operator getting into the pit. A more compact version is being developed. The device retains the simplicity of a bucket, but adds a long handle, rope, and pivot.]]>
Faecal sludge transport Tue, 16 Dec 2014 19:16:50 +0000
Re: "Fishing" for solid waste in a pit latrine - Perhaps not necessary - by: nicolag http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/11128-qfishingq-for-solid-waste-in-a-pit-latrine-have-you-seen-people-do-it-example-from-malawi#11365 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/11128-qfishingq-for-solid-waste-in-a-pit-latrine-have-you-seen-people-do-it-example-from-malawi#11365
Francis, any photos you can share of your fishing tools would be of interest.

Has anyone else seen anything used for fishing other than a metal rod similar to my photos at the start of this thread?]]>
Faecal sludge transport Mon, 15 Dec 2014 07:05:55 +0000
Re: "Fishing" for solid waste in a pit latrine - Perhaps not necessary - by: dandreatta http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/11128-qfishingq-for-solid-waste-in-a-pit-latrine-have-you-seen-people-do-it-example-from-malawi#11327 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/11128-qfishingq-for-solid-waste-in-a-pit-latrine-have-you-seen-people-do-it-example-from-malawi#11327
It was developed after attending a conference where a speaker said something like, "Gulpers don't work, buckets work better". This device is intended to essentially be a bucket, but still keep the operator out of the muck. Work is ongoing, with a more compact prototype being developed. For a location with a very small squatting hole such as in the pictures here, a separate clean-out port would be needed, and this port would be covered except when the pit is being emptied.

See what you think.

Dale Andreatta, Ph.D., P.E.
Mechanical Engineer]]>
Faecal sludge transport Wed, 10 Dec 2014 22:21:20 +0000
Re: Power auger modification to empty pits (North Carolina State University, USA and South Africa) - by: Tsepo http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/4252-the-excravator-power-auger-to-empty-pits-north-carolina-state-university-usa-now-field-testing?limit=12&start=24#11140 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/4252-the-excravator-power-auger-to-empty-pits-north-carolina-state-university-usa-now-field-testing?limit=12&start=24#11140
Can you be able to tell how far your working relationship was with the Ethekwini Municipality in planning to implementing this excavation of pit latrines. I am in communication with a company called Amanz' abantu based here in South Africa Eastern Cape
of which I was referred to them by Dr Sudhir Pillay.

I am looking of this excavation from the business point of view and would just love to join in the implementation of healthy sanitation for the good lives of those who do not have]]>
Faecal sludge transport Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:03:10 +0000
Re: Update: Solutions for pit desludging and sludge management in low income urban settlements in Malawi (Mzuzu University) - by: rochelleholm http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/6138-solutions-for-pit-desludging-and-sludge-management-in-low-income-urban-settlements-in-malawi-mzuzu-university-and-policy-issues?limit=12&start=12#11139 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/6138-solutions-for-pit-desludging-and-sludge-management-in-low-income-urban-settlements-in-malawi-mzuzu-university-and-policy-issues?limit=12&start=12#11139 1.) Plan Malawi as funded by the European Union (EU). The Plan Malawi target in Mzuzu for the PUSH project is 84,000 residents from 19,090 households, 14,400 school learners from 9 schools in 6 peri-urban locations of Mzuzu City (Chiputula, Masasa, Luwinga, Zolozolo, Mchengautuwa, Chibanja). The outputs are: Construction of 12 affordable privately run toilets in market places; construction of 18 VIP latrines in schools; construction of 48 ecological toilets in schools; promote construction of 2500 improved toilets at household level; conduct 54 triggering sessions; training of extension workers (HSAs and others) and 10 CBOs in sanitation marketing and UCLTS; hygiene promotion campaigns; promote use of 3Rs in waste management in informal settlements, markets and schools. Lastly this project will strive to conduct other capacity building activities for Mzuzu City Council members and sanitation entrepreneurs.
2.) Malawi Red Cross Society as funded by the European Union (EU). Malawi Red Cross Society is also conducting a WASH Project (30 months) in 6 peri-urban locations of Mzuzu City, within different areas from Plan Malawi. They aim to improve community knowledge, attitudes and practices on safe water, hygiene and sanitation; increase access to potable water through the construction of 15 water kiosks and the rehabilitation of 15 non-functioning water kiosks (30,000 inhabitants from the project areas); increase sanitation coverage in households, including schools, markets and bus stands, taking into consideration the needs of special groups; facilitate pit emptying and proper disposal of sludge. Lastly, they will build the capacity of private sector and authorities at local level to support community and other initiatives to improve access to safe water, adequate sanitation and hygiene.

These two projects are noticeably similar, and are being coordinated by Mzuzu City Council to ensure linkages but no overlaps.

Thank you to Dan Nyirenda for helping pull together this summary information. Dan is currently working to develop a FSM policy for Mzuzu City which would cover activities under both of these projects through his Master’s study at Mzuzu University.

Mzuzu City is considered urban. It was also specifically asked what sanitation technologies will be used under the Mzuzu sanitation projects. For both projects, the City Council guidance is the same. For construction of toilets at schools, it will be primarily eco-san toilets but other designs may be considered in line with Government approved designs for schools and preferences of the individual schools. Household toilets in urban areas may additionally include pour-flush. Sewer systems are not being built under either of the projects.]]>
Faecal sludge transport Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:00:03 +0000
Re: Reply: The excravator (power auger) to empty pits (North Carolina State University, USA) - now field testing - by: FrancisdelosReyes http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/4252-the-excravator-power-auger-to-empty-pits-north-carolina-state-university-usa-now-field-testing?limit=12&start=24#11134 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/4252-the-excravator-power-auger-to-empty-pits-north-carolina-state-university-usa-now-field-testing?limit=12&start=24#11134
Actually, Chris Buckley at UKZN has a prototype of the Excrevator. Unfortunately, we need to solve the trash problem- there is too much trash in many VIPs in Durban, and that will jam the screw auger. We are working on other methods for trash removal before pit emptying.

Francis]]>
Faecal sludge transport Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:47:28 +0000
Re: "Fishing" for solid waste in a pit latrine - have you seen people do it? (example from Malawi) - by: FrancisdelosReyes http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/11128-qfishingq-for-solid-waste-in-a-pit-latrine-have-you-seen-people-do-it-example-from-malawi#11133 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/11128-qfishingq-for-solid-waste-in-a-pit-latrine-have-you-seen-people-do-it-example-from-malawi#11133
Trash, unfortunately, is going to be there- as long as there are no solid waste disposal facilities. We have been working on the Excrevator, a screw auger for emptying pit latrines, and while it can handle solid waste, it will get jammed with too much.

We are now experimenting with new ways of doing "fishing", and Tate Rogers will go back to Malawi to test some new devices that hopefully will make the fishing process go faster. Again, the goal is not to take out all the trash, but get enough out so that the screw auger will not jam. On the other hand, if you use a vacuum truck, you probably need to get as much trash out of the pit as possible.

We will have these and other results for presentation at FSM3 in Hanoi next year.

-Francis]]>
Faecal sludge transport Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:45:22 +0000
Re: Fishing for solid waste - how have you seen people do it? - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/11128-qfishingq-for-solid-waste-in-a-pit-latrine-have-you-seen-people-do-it-example-from-malawi#11131 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/11128-qfishingq-for-solid-waste-in-a-pit-latrine-have-you-seen-people-do-it-example-from-malawi#11131 As much as I think the Gluper etc. are cool innovations and that they serve an obvious need for emptying existing legacy pit-latrines, they are a technological band-aid for a problem that has to be solved by switching to a different latrine technology.
Or to say it a bit differently: I think that this is a problem that can not be properly solved and even if theoretically a another technological band-aid could be found for it, it would be ultimately counter productive as open pit latrines are also inadequate for many other reasons (and I am not necessary just saying this to promote dry toilets, but flush toilets also suffer from this issue much less).]]>
Faecal sludge transport Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:02:33 +0000
"Fishing" for solid waste in a pit latrine - have you seen people do it? (example from Malawi) - by: nicolag http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/11128-qfishingq-for-solid-waste-in-a-pit-latrine-have-you-seen-people-do-it-example-from-malawi#11128 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/11128-qfishingq-for-solid-waste-in-a-pit-latrine-have-you-seen-people-do-it-example-from-malawi#11128
Our operators method of choice was a pronged fork (see photos attached) - the waste is pulled off the fork and put in a barrel.

I'm no stranger to the volumes of solid waste in pits - but I left these experiences thinking the overall emptying process can not get much cleaner/efficient overall unless this stage can be cleaned up.

Has anyone seen other systems for removal of solid waste? (NOT maceraters which will upset our treatment works!)

What can we do:
(a) an improved removal system?
(b) more work around preventing the solid waste getting into the pit in the first place?
(c) treatment processes that can deal with solid waste?

or will we be 'fishing' from pit latrines forever?!]]>
Faecal sludge transport Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:21:39 +0000
Re: Structuring of the fecal sludge market for the benefit of poor households in Dakar, Senegal (ONAS) - optimising faecal sludge emptying, transportation, processing - by: Onasbv http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/5057-structuring-of-the-fecal-sludge-market-for-the-benefit-of-poor-households-in-dakar-senegal-onas-optimising-faecal-sludge-emptying-transportation-processing?limit=12&start=12#11086 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/5057-structuring-of-the-fecal-sludge-market-for-the-benefit-of-poor-households-in-dakar-senegal-onas-optimising-faecal-sludge-emptying-transportation-processing?limit=12&start=12#11086

Thank you to find below the link of the Facebook account in french of the Program of Structuring of Fecal Sludge Market for the Benefit of poor households in Dakar (PSMBV).
You are most welcome in our Facebook account and you can find all the informations and the news about the PSMBV inside.

www.facebook.com/onasbv

Good reception.

Aissatou BASSE]]>
Faecal sludge transport Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:17:04 +0000
Reply: The excravator (power auger) to empty pits (North Carolina State University, USA) - now field testing - by: Tsepo http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/4252-the-excravator-power-auger-to-empty-pits-north-carolina-state-university-usa-now-field-testing?limit=12&start=24#11046 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/4252-the-excravator-power-auger-to-empty-pits-north-carolina-state-university-usa-now-field-testing?limit=12&start=24#11046
I am based in South Africa Durban do you have any one I may talk to in this matter to take it further??]]>
Faecal sludge transport Wed, 19 Nov 2014 07:53:22 +0000
Re: Power auger modification to empty pits - by: FrancisdelosReyes http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/4252-the-excravator-power-auger-to-empty-pits-north-carolina-state-university-usa-now-field-testing?limit=12&start=24#11003 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/4252-the-excravator-power-auger-to-empty-pits-north-carolina-state-university-usa-now-field-testing?limit=12&start=24#11003
Thank you for your interest in the Excavator. While the machine works, we feel that it is not yet optimized, particularly if there is significant trash in the pit. We are working on modifications, and hopefully will be able to test a modified design and pit emptying method early next year. We are testing several components in Malawi in December.

Once finalized, we intend to make the design available to anyone. Where are you located?

-Francis]]>
Faecal sludge transport Sat, 15 Nov 2014 23:28:07 +0000
Re: Power auger modification to empty pits - by: Tsepo http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/4252-the-excravator-power-auger-to-empty-pits-north-carolina-state-university-usa-now-field-testing?limit=12&start=24#10989 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/4252-the-excravator-power-auger-to-empty-pits-north-carolina-state-university-usa-now-field-testing?limit=12&start=24#10989
Kindly advise how does one get hold of this devise so that I commercially implement it.

I am entreprenuer and I notice that emptying PT LATRINES as a big market
which one can get into]]>
Faecal sludge transport Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:28:04 +0000
Re: Play with Faecal Sludge Trucks! - by: F H Mughal http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10961 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10961

F H Mughal]]>
Faecal sludge transport Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:33:21 +0000
Re: Play with Faecal Sludge Trucks! - by: rkaupp http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10929 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/99-faecal-sludge-transport/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10929
We may need a forum section for "Tales of shit" and other lighter touches...]]>
Faecal sludge transport Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:13:40 +0000