SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication http://forum.susana.org/ Sun, 23 Nov 2014 07:13:50 +0000 Kunena 1.6 http://forum.susana.org/components/com_kunena/template/default/images/icons/rss.png SuSanA - Forum http://forum.susana.org/ en-gb Sun Gil Kim, new project officer, Sanitation Product Certification Joined the Gates Toilet team in Oct 2013 - by: WSHBMGF http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10741-sun-gil-kim-new-project-officer-sanitation-product-certification-joined-the-gates-toilet-team-in-oct-2013#10741 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10741-sun-gil-kim-new-project-officer-sanitation-product-certification-joined-the-gates-toilet-team-in-oct-2013#10741
We are thrilled to announced that Mr Sun Gil Kim joined our team as PO (project officer), Product Certification, starting Monday October 13th, 2014.

In this role, Sun will make investment to support products compliance with national and international standards and certificates; assist the development of final product specifications that are acceptable to the end users and reflect their needs and aspirations as well as protecting users, operators and the operating environment; develop test plans, gather and distill the data and disseminate to the wider team for review and feedback. I expect Sun to develop and lead the relationship with national and international standards and certification authorities to develop certificates of conformity for Foundation-funded technologies that qualify for global commercialization. He will be responsible for the coordination of certification and accreditation tasks with Foundation partners. The Job description is attached.

Sun graduated from the University of Washington in 1984 with a BS in mechanical engineering. After graduating from the UW, he worked 2 years for Schlumberger Wireline Services in the oil fields of the Middle East as a geophysical test engineer. Sun worked for Boeing Commercial Airplanes for more than 27 years on pressurized doors mechanisms and systems design, analysis, test, and certification. His areas of focus were safety, certification, reliability, function, ease of production, reduced weight, reduced costs, and value to the customer.

Sun recently left Boeing as a mechanism design Associate Technical Fellow and as an Authorized Representative of the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration working with regulators from the U.S, European Aviation Safety Agency, United Kingdom Civil Aviation Authority, Russian, Chinese, and other authorities.

Soon, we will start introducing Sun to our transformative technology grantees and partners as well as partners who have been working with us to develop testing plan, certificates and standards for innovative sanitation technologies. As we are onboarding Sun on the WSH team, please share with us your perspective on how best we should approach this important workstream on sanitation technology certification and development standards. This is an important area of work for all of us, and your continuous support and sharing of expertise will help shaping our vision.

Best regards!

The WSH Team at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation]]>
Any other announcements Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:24:46 +0000
On Facebook- Sustainable sanitation in India - by: zenrainman http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10644-on-facebook-sustainable-sanitation-in-india#10644 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10644-on-facebook-sustainable-sanitation-in-india#10644 A small Facebook page has been opened here www.facebook.com/groups/1471068926475905/ just to bring the discussion to a more wider audience which perhaps has no exposure to water and sanitation issues and may be interested in volunteering or even in engaging on a long term basis perhaps as a career. Those interested and on Facebook are welcome to become part of the discussion which now engages India at various levels starting from the agenda set by the Prime Minister.]]> Any other announcements Wed, 22 Oct 2014 07:15:59 +0000 Re: Reply: Wanted: Toilet photos for DefeatDD's 2015 Places We Go toilet calendar - by: Hope http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10358-wanted-toilet-photos-for-defeatdds-2015-places-we-go-toilet-calendar#10435 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10358-wanted-toilet-photos-for-defeatdds-2015-places-we-go-toilet-calendar#10435
We love handwashing photos, but for the purposes of the calendar, we're looking for photos of toilets specifically (and if there is a handwashing station featured in the photo of the toilet, even better!).

If you have any toilet photos to share, please share them with me via This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it or This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .

Thanks again!
Hope]]>
Any other announcements Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:30:08 +0000
Reply: Wanted: Toilet photos for DefeatDD's 2015 Places We Go toilet calendar - by: Chhabi http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10358-wanted-toilet-photos-for-defeatdds-2015-places-we-go-toilet-calendar#10431 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10358-wanted-toilet-photos-for-defeatdds-2015-places-we-go-toilet-calendar#10431
I visited your Susana forum, I found interesting that you are collecting photos, Our organisation NEST is facilitating ODF campaign and behvaiour change in sanitation and hygiene in Rautahat district of Nepal with the support from GSF/UN Habitat.

I am enclosing herewith a photograph about hand washing, which may be suitable for your calender ?

Thank you , please contact us if any additional information required. We have lot of other photos about toilet, and sanitation campaign in Nepal.

Warm Regards


--
Chhabi Goudel

Executive Director
Necleus For Empowerment Through Skill Transfer ( NEST- Nepal)
Tel: 977 61 520492/ 528036 (o), Fax:521953
Cell: 9846040220 / 9856040220
E.Mail: This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
Website: www.nest.org.np]]>
Any other announcements Thu, 09 Oct 2014 12:58:38 +0000
Re: Wanted: Toilet photos for DefeatDD's 2015 Places We Go toilet calendar - by: Hope http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10358-wanted-toilet-photos-for-defeatdds-2015-places-we-go-toilet-calendar#10395 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10358-wanted-toilet-photos-for-defeatdds-2015-places-we-go-toilet-calendar#10395
We're currently going through an internal vetting process to decide which UN observances should be included in the calendar. As you can imagine, it could get out of control pretty quickly! In general, we are trying to keep the observance days related primarily to maternal and child health. Of course, there are gray areas and tough calls on whether or not to include certain days. We will likely not include the observance day for FGM, for example. And yes, while our audience is certainly a global one, most of our audience resides in the US, so we've chosen to include major US holidays.

Here is the (tentative) list of UN observances we plan to include:

- International Women’s Day

- World Water Day

- World Immunization Week

- World Health Day

- Day of the African Child

- World Population Day

- World Breastfeeding Week

- Global Handwashing Day

- World Food Day

- World Prematurity Day

- World Pneumonia Day

- World Toilet Day (obviously!)


ONE week to go! Looking forward to your submissions!


Thanks!
Hope]]>
Any other announcements Mon, 06 Oct 2014 19:06:21 +0000
Re: Wanted: Toilet photos for DefeatDD's 2015 Places We Go toilet calendar - by: muench http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10358-wanted-toilet-photos-for-defeatdds-2015-places-we-go-toilet-calendar#10388 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10358-wanted-toilet-photos-for-defeatdds-2015-places-we-go-toilet-calendar#10388 SuSanA Flickr Photo Database) and found the whole process of dealing with Hope Randall very enjoyable! There is a real person behind this call and behind the calendar, your photos don't just disappear into a black hole.

Hope has been so kind to add my other submissions from last year which weren't selected into the new contest so perhaps another photo from a SuSanA member will make it into the calendar for 2015!
You can see them all on their Facebook page here: www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.780357...593815230&type=1

The final product of the 2014 calendar was very pretty. Great Christmas present or give-away for various occasions. It is great that PATH (coming more from the health side) is putting the spotlight onto toilets and sanitation, and we should support these efforts if we can!

One question to Hope:
your calendar includes some UN days, as well as some public holidays in the US (I guess your main target audience are people in the US?).

Could you give us a listing of which UN days you will include in the 2015 calendar so that we can just check if you forgot any important ones? E.g. there is Menstrual Hygiene Day in 28 May - it is not yet an official UN day, so I am not sure if it could be included or not?
Also there is a UN day in February to stop female genital mutilation which I find important (and linked with sanitation), although would you say this is taking it too far away from the core topic?

Having these UN days in this calendar is a really good idea, I think.

Regards,
Elisabeth]]>
Any other announcements Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:35:20 +0000
Re: Wanted: Toilet photos for DefeatDD's 2015 Places We Go toilet calendar - by: Hope http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10358-wanted-toilet-photos-for-defeatdds-2015-places-we-go-toilet-calendar#10366 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10358-wanted-toilet-photos-for-defeatdds-2015-places-we-go-toilet-calendar#10366 defeatdd.org/oh-the-places-we-go-calendar

Check out the August feature: a photograph by Stefanie Lorenz on behalf of SuSanA (attached). We'd love to see SuSanA represented in the 2015 version as well!

Thanks,
Hope]]>
Any other announcements Thu, 02 Oct 2014 15:14:48 +0000
Wanted: Toilet photos for DefeatDD's 2015 Places We Go toilet calendar - by: Hope http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10358-wanted-toilet-photos-for-defeatdds-2015-places-we-go-toilet-calendar#10358 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/10358-wanted-toilet-photos-for-defeatdds-2015-places-we-go-toilet-calendar#10358
Last year’s loos traveled (in calendar form) all over the world, from the Reinvent the Toilet Fair in India to a national sanitation policy conference in Kenya to US policymakers to commemorate World Pneumonia Day and World Toilet Day on Capitol Hill. We hear they also made great stocking stuffers for the featured photographers’ families, too. Still, our work to raise awareness about the sanitation crisis isn’t over.

You can find submission information here: defeatdd.org/2015-placeswego-redoo

To view the entries so far, visit our Facebook album: www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.780357...593815230&type=1

Questions? Email me at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .

Thanks!
Hope]]>
Any other announcements Wed, 01 Oct 2014 22:09:15 +0000
Staff at flagship organisation "Water and Sanitation for Africa" in Burkina Faso go on strike June 24, 2014 - by: arno http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/9163-staff-at-flagship-organisation-qwater-and-sanitation-for-africaq-in-burkina-faso-go-on-strike-june-24-2014#9163 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/9163-staff-at-flagship-organisation-qwater-and-sanitation-for-africaq-in-burkina-faso-go-on-strike-june-24-2014#9163 burkina24.com/2014/06/24/le-personnel-de...secretaire-executif/

According to the article published in Burkina24 by Noufou KINDO and Aboubakar KAMAGATE, the flagship organisation Water and Sanitation For Africa wsafrica.org/en with its HQ in Burkina Faso is suffering from serious management setbacks forcing the staff to go on strike to draw world attention to the conflict.

Excerpted from the article written in French:
The staff of the Pan African Intergovernmental Agency Water and Sanitation for Africa (WSA) observed a sit-in twelve hours, Tuesday, June 24, 2014, at the Agency's headquarters in Ouagadougou. Several items on a platform of demands were raised. They demand, the "departure without compromise" of the director of the institution, Idrissa DOUCOURE.

"Enough is enough" say officials of the WSA critics of the financial management climate and working conditions. According to the spokesman Mamadou Ouattara, the image of the institution is "tarnished" by the lack of trust between the President Executive Secretary of the WSA, Idrissa DOUCOURE and staff and between technical partners financial and other.

The striking staff demanded "the immediate payment in arrears of salaries. They say they have repeatedly tried to attract the attention of the administration, in public and in private, on the immense risks to the institution that is "in bankruptcy".]]>
Any other announcements Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:20:36 +0000
Re: Remembering Hans Huber, former CEO of HUBER SE, Germany - by: mwink http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/8064-remembering-hans-huber-former-ceo-of-huber-se-germany#8073 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/8064-remembering-hans-huber-former-ceo-of-huber-se-germany#8073
thanks for this memorial post. I was really shocked when I learnd that Mr. Huber died. He was active in sanitation issues since I started in this field. For me he and his company were always there.
E.g. one of my first conferences was his wastewater conference in Berching in 2004 - where we already could visit the struvite reactor you mentioned running in a container.

I am very sorry but hope that his relatives, friends, companions and employees derive comfort from the knowledge of all the things he created, supported and promoted.

Martina.]]>
Any other announcements Wed, 02 Apr 2014 06:50:41 +0000
Remembering Hans Huber, former CEO of HUBER SE, Germany - by: muench http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/8064-remembering-hans-huber-former-ceo-of-huber-se-germany#8064 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/8064-remembering-hans-huber-former-ceo-of-huber-se-germany#8064
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We are deeply saddened to announce that our supervisory board chairman and former CEO

Dr.-Ing. E.h. Hans G. Huber


passed away suddenly and unexpectedly the night before Saturday, 15th March 2014, at the age of 71.




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Read the full statement and orbituary from the German HUBER SE company here (in English):
www.huber.de/about-huber/on-the-death-of...eh-hans-g-huber.html

I quote:
Among the awards he received are the German Environmental Award, the Environmental Medal of the State of Bavaria, the Federal Cross of Merit with Ribbon of the Federal Republic of Germany, and the Bavarian Order of Merit. Furthermore, he has been the spokesman of the Bavarian Environmental Technology Cluster right from the beginning in 2006 when the cluster organisation was founded and recently appointed honorary spokesman. In October 2007, Dr. Huber was awarded the honorary doctorate by the Technical University of Munich due to his outstanding achievements in the field of technical environmental protection. In 2006, he further initiated the foundation of the Huber-Technology-Foundation with the goal to increase the public awareness for the element water and symbolise the idea of sustainability.


The remainder of this post I do in German:

Meine Kollegin Christine Werner (GIZ), die Herrn Huber öfters getroffen hat, schrieb mir folgendes aus Marokko:

Hans Huber ist ein zunnächst sehr überraschender Mensch gewesen ist, der sein urbayerisches Unternehmen, das ursprünglich Anlagen zum Bierbrauen hergestellt hat, zu einem der führenden internationalen Unternehmen zur Produktion hochwertiger Bauelemente aus Edelstahl für Kläranlagen gemacht hat. Hierbei hat er typisch bayrische Bodenständigkeit und Schlitzohrigkeit mit unternehmerischer und umweltpolitischer Weitsicht und Innovationsfreude verbunden. Er war ein Unikat und es war ein Vergnügen, mit ihm zusammenzuarbeiten.


Ich selber habe Hans Huber nie kennengelernt, aber stets nur Gutes über ihn gehört, und ich weiss, dass er mit seiner Firma sehr daran interessiert war, in Deutschland neuartige Sanitärsysteme (mit Wiedernutzung von Wasser und Nährstoffen) voranzubringen. Schon vor Jahren (2006?) hat er in seinem Betriebsgebäude in Berching in Bayern einen Struvit-Reaktor für die Behandlung von Urin installieren lassen. Mit dem Struvit-Dünger wurden Apfelbäume auf dem Gelände gedüngt, habe ich gehört.

Das 4-jährige SANIRESCH-Forschungsprojekt (www.saniresch.de/), das unter Leitung der GIZ (Martina Winker) von 2009 bis 2012 lief, hatte u.a. die Firma HUBER zum Partner und es war eine Modellpartnerschaft, wie sie besser nicht hätte sein können. Hier ein Beispiel von der Verfahrenstechnik (Membranereaktor für Grauwasser und Struvit-Reaktor für Urin), die von der Firma HUBER geliefert wurde und auf engstem Raum in einem Kellerraum installiert wurde:



Hans Hubers Interesse an Nachhaltigkeit und Umweltschutzaspekten im Bereich Wasser, gepaart mit seinem erfolgreichen Unternehmertum, war eine wunderbare Mischung.
Wir sind traurig, dass er zu früh von uns gegangen ist. Er wird im Wasser/Umweltsektor in Deutschland sehr fehlen. Unser Beileid gilt auch seinen Hinterbliebenen.

Elisabeth von Muench
Christine Werner]]>
Any other announcements Tue, 01 Apr 2014 21:50:52 +0000
IRC selected as an exhibitor for the Reinvent the Toilet Fair: India - by: dietvorst http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/7926-irc-selected-as-an-exhibitor-for-the-reinvent-the-toilet-fair-india#7926 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/7926-irc-selected-as-an-exhibitor-for-the-reinvent-the-toilet-fair-india#7926
The Reinvent the Toilet Fair: India aims to stimulate discussion and spur partnerships to improve global sanitation and bring affordable sanitation solutions to people who need it most. The fair is also an opportunity to recognize India’s leadership and commitment to improving child health and fostering innovative solutions to persistent development challenges.

IRC’s project is one of approximately 50 exhibits that will be on display during the two-day fair.

IRC will present the WASHCost Calculator; an online tool that helps professionals to plan for WASH services that are built to last. WASH organisations working in developing countries have largely been focusing on infrastructure, instead of providing services. The result is that pumps break down, water stops flowing, and investment is wasted. To combat this short-term planning, the WASHCost Calculator was developed.

The Calculator takes into account everything from construction, finance, and installation, to maintenance, repairs and eventual replacement. It raises issues such as who owns the infrastructure or who is responsible for replacement. It helps you to think about how you are going to maintain the service before you’re trying to build it. The online tool is designed to compare data across organisations and is dynamically updated, growing smarter with each additional project. And the tool is now online at http://washcost.ircwash.org

“Of the 1.1 billion people who defecate in the open, almost 60 percent are Indian,” said Professor K. VijayRaghavan, secretary of the Indian Department of Biotechnology. “Sanitation solutions using the latest technology need not be complex or driven by expensive gadgetry, but they need to be innovative and address the many aspects of this multifaceted problem.”

“Today, because of a lack of toilets and poorly functioning infrastructure, massive amounts of untreated waste winds up in the environment, spreading disease,” said Brian Arbogast, director of the Water, Sanitation & Hygiene team at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. “We are privileged to host the Reinvent the Toilet Fair: India with our partners to advance conversations about sanitation – it is a testament to the Indian government’s commitment to improving how we deal with this pressing problem.”

Note: attendance at the fair is by invitation only. No further invitations will be extended.

Start using the basic tool at http://washcost.ircwash.org

For more detailed information on the Calculator, please contact Nicolas Dickinson at: This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it

Contact Details Local requests (India): Dr. Kurian Baby, +91 81 29 876383]]>
Any other announcements Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:19:35 +0000
Re: Remembering Florian Erzinger - by: Doreen http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/7139-remembering-florian-erzinger#7143 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/7139-remembering-florian-erzinger#7143
Thank you for informing us. I wish to express my sincere condolences to his family and friends for the loss. It was really sad to hear of his passing.

I first came across Florians work when I was an intern in GIZ in Eschborn. I remember one picture in particular that he took in Burkina Faso that I am certain I will never forget.(see below)


Passing the faecal sludge to the top of the pit latrine by Sustainable sanitation, on Flickr

This picture really depicts what is wrong in the sector as it shows the gross violation of human rights. It inspired me to also raise awareness on the struggles of manual emptiers in Kenya
See below: www.flickr.com/photos/gtzecosan/sets/72157629202806662/

He had a passion to make a difference and inspired me to look into the issues that manual emptiers face and develop standards for them to bring back dignity to their profession. I thank him for his work and his contribution to the sector.]]>
Any other announcements Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:58:28 +0000
Remembering Florian Erzinger - by: muench http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/7139-remembering-florian-erzinger#7139 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/7139-remembering-florian-erzinger#7139
Some of you may have known him: Florian Erzinger. He made some great contributions to the knowledge base of SuSanA. Sadly, he passed away suddenly middle of last year, leaving behind a wife and two young children - and so many ideas and a great passion for sustainable sanitation - ecosan in particular! The news of his passing made me very sad. From time to time I come across his photos that he had contributed to the SuSanA Flickr database and I think of him. For this reason, I decided today to write a few lines here in remembrance.

Florian worked in Switzerland for the EPA in Berne and did a postgraduate degree with NADEL which belongs to the university ETH in Zürich (www.nadel.ethz.ch/index_EN). That's where he got into contact with sanitation in developing countries.

He worked in rural Burkina Faso (also with CREPA, now WSA, and Eawag-Sandec) and developed what he called "Ecosan ARA" - ecosan which is adapted to the realities of Africa - i.e. low cost. A urine diversion toilet that was meant to be as cheap as possible (not dissimilar to the work that e.g. Chris Canaday is doing in Ecuador).

You find his publications in the SuSanA library here, in English and French:
www.susana.org/library?search=erzinger

and in the SuSanA photo database in Burkina Faso:
www.flickr.com/photos/gtzecosan/collections/72157624907659995/

(there are 11 sets in this Burking Faso collection that contain his photos, from this set:
www.flickr.com/photos/gtzecosan/sets/72157625009337326/
to this set:
www.flickr.com/photos/gtzecosan/sets/72157625009427460/)

Here you see him - modestly in the background with a group of pit emptiers whose jobs he wanted to improve:

Step 2: Formalization of the assotiation of manual toilet emptiers by Sustainable sanitation, on Flickr

And here he is also in action:

Step 3: Information and sensibilisation seminary by Sustainable sanitation, on Flickr

Dear Florian Erzinger, the SuSanA community and future users of your photos showing e.g. deplorable pit emptying practices are very grateful for your contributions!

Rest in peace.

Regards,
Elisabeth

P.S. Florian also made one post on the forum, see here:
forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-fae...uster-operators#1103]]>
Any other announcements Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:03:13 +0000
Re: Toilettes sèches dans le magazine de la santé sur France 5 (TV) - by: emmanuel http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/7020-toilettes-seches-dans-le-magazine-de-la-sante-sur-france-5-tv-in-frenchenglish-dry-toilets-featured-on-the-health-program-on-france-5-tv#7088 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/78-any-other-announcements/7020-toilettes-seches-dans-le-magazine-de-la-sante-sur-france-5-tv-in-frenchenglish-dry-toilets-featured-on-the-health-program-on-france-5-tv#7088
J'ai eu un contact avec la journaliste pour expliquer les différents modèles de toilettes sèches. Elle ne connaissait que les toilettes avec des copeaux de bois (TLB), mais pas une autre sorte comme les toilettes à séparation.
J'ai expliqué le système Ecodomeo et elle était très intéressée pour avoir des toilettes pendant l'émission. J'ai envoyé une de mes toilettes et AQUALOGIK a envoyé une TLB.
La journaliste ne m'a pas posé beaucoup de questions sur les objectifs et les intérêts de développer les toilettes sèches. Elle avait probablement suffisamment d'informations.
Elle n'a pas dit que les 2 toilettes de l'émission ont été fabriqués en France et que l'Europe travaille sur le développement de solutions alternatives pour les toilettes. Dommage !
Dans l'ensemble l'émission était bien et le sujet bien traité.

Translation

I had contact with the journalist to explain the different types of dry toilets. She only knew the toilets with wood ships but not other type like UD toilets.
I explain the Ecodomeo system and she was very interested to have toilets during the show. I send one of mine and Aqualogik send a wood chip one.
The journalist do not asked me a lot on aims and interest for developing dry toilets. She probably has enough information.
She did not say that the 2 toilets of the show were made in France and that Europe is working on developing alternative solutions to flush toilets.
However, the information was good and it is nice to speak about that subject.

Emmanuel
Ecodomeo]]>
Any other announcements Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:02:38 +0000