SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication http://forum.susana.org/ Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:31:28 +0000 Kunena 1.6 http://forum.susana.org/components/com_kunena/template/default/images/icons/rss.png SuSanA - Forum http://forum.susana.org/ en-gb Re: eSOS: oh boy! here we go again... - Smart eSOS toilet for emergencies (emergency Sanitation Operation System) - by: muench http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/11907-esos-oh-boy-here-we-go-again-smart-esos-toilet-for-emergencies-emergency-sanitation-operation-system#12353 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/11907-esos-oh-boy-here-we-go-again-smart-esos-toilet-for-emergencies-emergency-sanitation-operation-system#12353
She replied by e-mail and gave permission that I copy this to the forum for her:

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22 Feb 2015

Dear Elisabeth,

I am sorry for delays in responding. I am currently in Tacloban, Philippines for the eSOS field testing.
I have just arrived few days ago and currently trying to arrange logistics and other related things to get the toilet to the location.

I would love to be active in the forum, but I am afraid I have to restrain the urge to do that now.
Mainly because I have no new information to share at the time being.

I hope you'd understand. My greetings to everyone participated in the discussion about eSOS toilet. I am grateful for all the interests they have given.


May I draw your attention to my recently published paper? It is not about eSOS toilet, but it is relevant to some of the discussion when ppl are questioning about the decision making process when planning for emergency sanitation.
authors.elsevier.com/a/1QU-oB8ccTwLM

Decision support system for the provision of emergency sanitation

Highlights
• We developed a DSS to select and plan for faecal sludge management in emergencies
• The DSS is useful for planners to make decisions in relatively short time
• The DSS is designed as a computer-based program that can easily be modified
• The DSS is user-friendly and can be operated offline
• Preliminary validation of the DSS shows that it can provide realistic results

Abstract

Proper provision of sanitation in emergencies is considered a life-saving intervention. Without access to sanitation, refugees at emergency camps are at a high risk of contracting diseases. Even the most knowledgeable relief agencies have experienced difficulties providing sanitation alternatives in such challenging scenarios. This study developed a computer-based decision support system (DSS) to plan a sanitation response in emergencies. The sanitation alternatives suggested by the DSS are based on a sanitation chain concept that considers different steps in the faecal sludge management, from the toilet or latrine to the safe disposal of faecal matters. The DSS first screens individual sanitation technologies using the user's given input. Remaining sanitation options are then built into a feasible sanitation chain. Subsequently, each technology in the chain is evaluated on a scoring system. Different sanitation chains can later be ranked based on the total evaluation scores. The DSS addresses several deficiencies encountered in the provision of sanitation in emergencies including: the application of standard practices and intuition, the omission of site specific conditions, the limited knowledge exhibited by emergency planners, and the provision of sanitation focused exclusively on the collection step (i.e., just the provision of toilets).


Regards,
Fiona Zakaria

PhD Research Fellow
UNESCO-IHE Institute for Water Education
Department of Environmental Engineering and Water Technology
Westvest 7, 2611 AX Delft, The Netherlands
Web: www.unesco-ihe.org

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Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Thu, 05 Mar 2015 10:02:25 +0000
Re: Latrine lighting in emergencies - by: mkoslengar http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12101 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12101
Yes... Light surrounding communities, light throughout the camp, and you are not only less likely to have issues but YOU BRING REAL SOLUTION to ALL beneficiaries.

From my little experience in Emergencies in at about 6 african and middle East countries...I can fully understand that budget constraint ( budget size and activity specific ) has not always helped Engineers to design a sustainable and inclusif WASH response.

I don't agree to come to the conclusion that ''if in doubt, its best not to light anywhere if we can't light everywhere' but I honestly think, WASH partitioners must try to push/convince donor on the necessity to provide '' full response '' once rather than intermittent and incomplete responses which rather generate un-satisfaction and discrimination.

In your case, if no budget change is possible, then light the surrounding of toilets and get the support from the refugees committee to monitor and ensure surveillance at night time ( I have an experience when the refugee committee designated young people who carry out night shift ensuring the camp safety)

Best]]>
Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:27:52 +0000
Re: Latrine lighting in emergencies - by: nicolag http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12088 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12088

Its nice that gravity light have come up with a new system - but as per usual, I don't see the technology as the great issue - and don't see gravity lights helping this situation (whether they are in production or not - chances are they would not be in Malawi and you need to have them individually and manually turn them on rather than them staying on and lighting a general area. Also, similar to what's been mentioned - i don't see how its much different to cranking something).

I am not talking about lights for individuals - I am considering lighting of a large area with latrines.

You make a key point for me. Light surrounding communities, light throughout the camp, and you are less likely to have issues.

Although lets claw back to the current situation - emergency situation, people in camps, surrounded by communities lacking power. There is a budget for a small amount of lighting (I'm talking one of the larger lights or 5 of the small ones per camp - these camps are 300 - 3000+ people with one cluster of ladies latrines). The money is to make the latrines safer to use at night.

After what you've said, do we come to the conclusion that if in doubt, its best not to light anywhere if you can't light everywhere?

Do we disregard small money allowed for lighting and encourage someone from the shelter cluster to take this on at a larger level?

Has anyone seen lighting in camp settings, be at latrines or not, that works?

Nicola]]>
Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:14:50 +0000
Re: Latrine lighting in emergencies - by: mkoslengar http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12079 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12079
Lighting latrines in Emergencies is really and interesting thing to do.

Many technical options exist, Chris already provided The gravity light that looks a most interesting option to try . However, you seem to already having some Beacon MB2 380 set.

Coming to your question, I would advise you concentrate in lighting the surrounding of toilets. Don't be surprised !!!!! , to avoid theft issue, you must make sure all tentes are provided with same light system and the local community in the vicinity of your camp must benefit the same service as well. Lighting only latrines and the remaining of the camp in the dark would not necessary solve the problem you trying to address. How your toilets are designed? how far are they from the tentes, are they grouped toilets?, are they roofed?, what is the superstructure mad of? every and single question i'm asking here has strong signification when you decide to light the toilet.

I remember back in 2008, a very experienced WASH person told me to not light toilet if I can't do so for the entire camp as it could be an indicator for the criminal to know/identify the time of use /user

Best]]>
Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Sun, 15 Feb 2015 23:12:42 +0000
Re: Latrine lighting in emergencies - by: smecca http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12078 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12078 Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Sun, 15 Feb 2015 21:49:22 +0000 Re: Latrine lighting in emergencies - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12071 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12071
The only advantage I see is that this "gravity" light does not have to have a build in battery, but that is a bit of a moot point if the price it is sold at is comparable to devices that have one included.]]>
Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Sun, 15 Feb 2015 16:12:08 +0000
Re: Latrine lighting in emergencies - by: muench http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12065 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12065 I found this short video on Youtube (it's from December 2012, so possibly outdated by now) which explains the concept and asks for funding for upscaling (to manufacture 1000 of them and test them):



In the video it says it would cost 10 $ to buy and it would pay for itself after only 3 months via the saved costs of kerosene for the kerosene lights used normally in remote villages without electricity (I have no idea if these figures are correct).

I would love to have one of them for my next camping trip!

I could also imagine they could work for use in well-monitored (to avoid theft and vandalism) public toilets in refugee camps but probably less likely to work out for remote rural areas. Probably sand would get into the housing and with the moving parts in there, maintenance would be an issue (even though the video says no maintenance is necessary)?

Anyway, I am very curious to hear more about this gravity light and to find out whether it is selling well.

Oh yes, and one selling point could indeed be this feature: the lamp can also be used to charge batteries and mobile phones. Now that's really clever and might increase interest amongst people in developing countries who are not connected to an electricity network because mobile phones are so wide-spread.
Being able to charge your mobile phone simply by lifting a weight a meter or two (although David indicated 2.5-3 m?) sounds great.]]>
Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Sun, 15 Feb 2015 10:32:06 +0000
Re: Latrine lighting in emergencies - by: DavidAlan http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12063 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12063 Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Sun, 15 Feb 2015 05:04:04 +0000 Re: Latrine lighting in emergencies - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12062 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12062 Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Sun, 15 Feb 2015 00:10:40 +0000 Re: Latrine lighting in emergencies - by: PGimenez http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12061 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12061 Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:26:24 +0000 Re: Latrine lighting in emergencies - by: canaday http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12045 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12045
GravityLight is not quite ready for you to buy off the shelf, but is getting close. It is a great option for lots of situations, including toilets. The user lifts a weight and the apparatus produces light for roughly 25 minutes. The company does not quite say it, but I think their goal is for each unit to cost only $5. This is much less fragile compared to solar panels and should be easier to secure against theft.

gravitylight.org/

Best wishes,
Chris Canaday]]>
Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:52:04 +0000
Latrine lighting in emergencies - by: nicolag http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12038 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/12038-latrine-lighting-in-emergencies#12038
While funding was received for lighting, and options were available from the catalogue attached (the only lights of this kind available immediately in bulk in Malawi)- we were left confused by options for securing and managing the lighting in the camp.

d.light s20 was originally considered -but is not particularly bright. That said its a convenient system which would be capable of lighting one latrine but I remain unsure about how secure it - its not bright enough from a height.

We then moved our thinking to the Beacon MB2 380 set - this set has a solar panel and three bright lights which can be removed from the panel and secured on an individual basis (if you were to take them down each day,reconnect to the panel and charge them) or can just be left in situ with the panel.These are adequately bright from a height of 3m.

In each case we were left confused about how to secure these lights in the refugee camps (and actually we feared that they would more likely be stolen from people who resided outside the camps) and the management structures that should surround them.

Has anyone seen any successful latrine lighting in refugee camps? Do you consider the primary objective to light the area surrounding the latrines, or the latrines themselves for ease of use?

This lighting issue is ongoing and unresolved so your reply is appreciated.]]>
Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Fri, 13 Feb 2015 06:57:55 +0000
Re: eSOS: oh boy! here we go again... - Smart eSOS toilet for emergencies (emergency Sanitation Operation System) - by: isis http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/11907-esos-oh-boy-here-we-go-again-smart-esos-toilet-for-emergencies-emergency-sanitation-operation-system#11914 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/11907-esos-oh-boy-here-we-go-again-smart-esos-toilet-for-emergencies-emergency-sanitation-operation-system#11914 B&MGF does give seed money in some of their programmes, but in others they fund large (sometimes very large) grants. An example of the latter is the Aquatest that has not really lived up to the hype that surrounded it. However, in either case, scaling up is an important factor in their granting programme. I am not sure under which programme eSOS is funded.]]> Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Fri, 06 Feb 2015 02:01:13 +0000 Re: eSOS: oh boy! here we go again... - Smart eSOS toilet for emergencies (emergency Sanitation Operation System) - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/11907-esos-oh-boy-here-we-go-again-smart-esos-toilet-for-emergencies-emergency-sanitation-operation-system#11913 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/11907-esos-oh-boy-here-we-go-again-smart-esos-toilet-for-emergencies-emergency-sanitation-operation-system#11913
You might have a point about the overall program's idea, but I think one of the stronger points of the Gates Foundation's programs is that they usually also give some seed money to the outliers (because you never know if an idea might not turn out much more appropriate than initially thought).]]>
Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Fri, 06 Feb 2015 01:22:57 +0000
Re: eSOS: oh boy! here we go again... - Smart eSOS toilet for emergencies (emergency Sanitation Operation System) - by: isis http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/11907-esos-oh-boy-here-we-go-again-smart-esos-toilet-for-emergencies-emergency-sanitation-operation-system#11912 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/67-emergencies-reconstruction-situations-refugee-camps-special-conditions-resiliance-issues/11907-esos-oh-boy-here-we-go-again-smart-esos-toilet-for-emergencies-emergency-sanitation-operation-system#11912 What do you mean by a camp that is so organised "to a point where it is not nice to live there anymore"? (did I miss something?)
Anyhow, perhaps it work in such a niche scenario... but I was under the impression that B&MGF projects were about scaling-up etc. (maybe I am also missing something here)]]>
Emergencies, reconstruction situations, refugee camps, special conditions, resiliance issues Fri, 06 Feb 2015 00:04:01 +0000