SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication http://forum.susana.org/ Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:25:24 +0000 Kunena 1.6 http://forum.susana.org/components/com_kunena/template/default/images/icons/rss.png SuSanA - Forum http://forum.susana.org/ en-gb Re: Safer siting of sanitation systems : An introduction to criteria for risk reduction to groundwater quality - by: F H Mughal http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#11753 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#11753
Attached is 1984 publication of the World Bank titled “Manual on the Design, Construction and Maintenance of Low-Cost Pour-Flush Waterseal Latrines in India.” Please see section 2.4.4 on Distance between 2 pits (pp. 7); section 2.4.8 on Water pollution aspects (pp. 8 ) and; Table 4 on pp. 10.

I think, the distances must be highlighted, when there is level difference, e,g., when latrine is uphill and a water well is downhill; and vice versa.

A paper on “Pit Latrines and Their Impacts on Groundwater Quality: A Systematic Review, by Jay P. Graham and Matthew L. Polizzotto,” (also attached), draws attention to nitrate, chloride and ammonia
(chemical contamination), as major contaminants of groundwater from latrines, due to their higher concentrations in excreta.

Whenever, I’m on a topic, like the one you have initiated, I’m always reminded of the proper platform for the handpumps on wells. Please highlight this briefly, as well. A RWSN publication on Platform Design is attached.

Smiles,

F H Mughal]]>
WG 11 (Groundwater) Sun, 25 Jan 2015 06:17:16 +0000
Re: Safer siting of sanitation systems : An introduction to criteria for risk reduction to groundwater quality - by: kanalwolf http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#11727 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#11727 Thank you again for the helpful suggestions from the forum.
It was very quiet in this post because it took us some time to respond to feedback and also we added some subchapters.

Please see the final draft attached to this post. It is currently also for review with the SuSana core group.
If you have minor comments, please let us know before 30th of January and we will try to take them on board in this 2015 version before we publish it. Major suggestions however will be collected for the process of composing the next edition (probably in 2016)

Kind regards,
Leif]]>
WG 11 (Groundwater) Thu, 22 Jan 2015 16:17:34 +0000
Re: Safer siting of sanitation systems : An introduction to criteria for risk reduction to groundwater quality - by: kanalwolf http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#10668 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#10668
Many thanks for the feedback and good suggestions to Kris, Christian and Percival.

I agree that it could be valuable to provide a bit more examples on separation distances.
However, I think that we need to make clear also to non-professionals that the idea of having a uniform separation distance for an entire country is most likely not the best approach.

E.g. even 50 m lateral separation distance migth not be sufficient in a strongly karstified system with a downgradient supply well or spring, while 10 m lateral separation distance is completely sufficient if there is a well developed clay cover layer and the annular space of the well is nicely sealed.

Ok. let me dream a little bit:
Possibly the best approach (if there is enough expertise available) would be to develop for each district or urban area an intitial water safety plan which 1) maps major and minor groundwater uses for drinking water 2) displays broad groundwater flow directions 3) maps the groundwater vulnerability based on criteria like karstification or vadose zone thickness / composition 4) maps high and low risk areas with corresponding minimum lateral separation distance regulations and 5)identifies the ability of residents to implement the recommended separation distances.

As for the checklist document, I will try to include
- more information on example separation distances,
- an explanation why it is completely sensible that so many separation distances were defined by different people ( in gross simplification of the real complexity of the problem)
- a simplified version of the table which Kris extracted.

Would this address your points?

Cheers,
Leif]]>
WG 11 (Groundwater) Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:48:56 +0000
Re: WaSH case study Yaoundé / Cameroon (fr) - Pilot Study on Groundwater Quality and Health in Yaoundé - by: epesshydro1 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9984-wash-case-study-yaounde--cameroon-fr-pilot-study-on-groundwater-quality-and-health-in-yaounde#10224 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9984-wash-case-study-yaounde--cameroon-fr-pilot-study-on-groundwater-quality-and-health-in-yaounde#10224
www.bgr.bund.de/cameroon-epess

Best regards,]]>
WG 11 (Groundwater) Thu, 18 Sep 2014 20:42:09 +0000
Re: Safer siting of sanitation systems : An introduction to criteria for risk reduction to groundwater quality - by: christoph http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#10222 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#10222 I thought of something like the Table 8.2 in the document you posted. To explain with a bit more imagination possibility for distances the problem.


Nothing sientific for all cases.
Christoph]]>
WG 11 (Groundwater) Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:15:00 +0000
Re: Safer siting of sanitation systems : An introduction to criteria for risk reduction to groundwater quality - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#10219 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#10219 WG 11 (Groundwater) Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:37:18 +0000 Re: Safer siting of sanitation systems : An introduction to criteria for risk reduction to groundwater quality - by: christoph http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#10217 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#10217 the document is nice and clear in its layout, explaining the problem in a clear manner to nonprofessionals. I get the impression that it is meant for nonprofessionals.
But especially nonprofessionals would need examples. Explaining "what is close and what is far" in reality. In the document is mentioned 10 m as close (as it is so close that in all situations it is close) and 1000 m as far (so far that it will never be relevant).

Any quantitative information on separation distances provided within this document are general examples only. For application to your site or setting, it is strongly recommended to consult groundwater professionals to elaborate specific guidelines which are adapted to the regional setting.

The second zone is delineated at the line from which groundwater travels 50 days until it reaches the production well or spring.

I think you should include examples as: a 50 day line in sandy soils is about ...m whereas in loamy soils it is ... and it can go up to xxx m in fractured rock. Just to make clear for a non professional how extreme the difference could be.
How many people in areas with household wells have a groundwater professionals to elaborate specific guidelines .... so they need orientation to understand the reason the distance varies between "between 12 to 75 m between pit latrine and groundwater wells" in guidelines.

Regards
Christoph]]>
WG 11 (Groundwater) Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:57:29 +0000
Safer siting of sanitation systems : An introduction to criteria for risk reduction to groundwater quality - by: prthomas http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#10210 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#10210
This is an excellent document for public education on siting of septic systems. In Ontario Canada we have number of municipal wells and it has been legislated here 4 zones around a municipal well.

• Wellhead Protection Area WHPA-A : 100 m Radius
• Wellhead Protection Area WHPA-B : 2-Year time of travel
• Wellhead Protection Area WHPA-C : 10-Year time of travel
• Wellhead Protection Area WHPA-D : 25-year time of travel.

Also, there are septic re-inspection programs to check the septic systems within these time of travel.

You might have heard that Ontario has stewardship grants to owners of septic tanks located in the Wellhead Protection Areas for retrofits/rehabilitation. Also there mandatory septic tanks inspection programs as well.

Thanks and Best Wishes.

Percival


Percival R. Thomas, PhD, P.Eng.
Manager of Water/Wastewater Systems
City of Orillia
Environmental Services - Engineering
50 Andrew Street South, Suite 300
Orillia, Ontario L3V 7T5]]>
WG 11 (Groundwater) Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:02:02 +0000
Re: Safer siting of sanitation systems : An introduction to criteria for risk reduction to groundwater quality - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#10001 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#10001
Edit: more than one sentence

But also see: wedc.lboro.ac.uk/resources/conference/25/041.pdf]]>
WG 11 (Groundwater) Wed, 03 Sep 2014 10:57:37 +0000
Re: WaSH case study Yaoundé / Cameroon (fr) - Pilot Study on Groundwater Quality and Health in Yaoundé - by: epesshydro1 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9984-wash-case-study-yaounde--cameroon-fr-pilot-study-on-groundwater-quality-and-health-in-yaounde#9996 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9984-wash-case-study-yaounde--cameroon-fr-pilot-study-on-groundwater-quality-and-health-in-yaounde#9996 a low resolution copy (16Mb) is available on the same page, just below the 80Mb asteroid:

INS & BGR (2013): Small version of the final technical report "Etude Pilote sur la Pollution des Eaux de Surface et Souterraines à Yaoundé et son Impact sur la Santé des Populations Riveraines (EPESS)" (PDF, 16 MB)

www.bgr.bund.de/EN/Themen/Wasser/Projekt...licationFile&v=1

We will also split off and make the appendix available separately.]]>
WG 11 (Groundwater) Wed, 03 Sep 2014 09:04:48 +0000
Re: Safer siting of sanitation systems : An introduction to criteria for risk reduction to groundwater quality - by: kanalwolf http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#9992 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#9992 Thanks for the various useful comments to the checklist document recieved so far via email.
If you like, please comment also in the forum, then more people can participate in the discussion

Especially I liked the comment that probably good practice in well constructiion (especially approproiate sealing of the annular space) is one of the most important ToDo´s in having safer groundwater supplies.

The time slot for the working group meeting in Stockholm is now planned for 6th September between 11:30-13:00.
If you would like to participate and contribute, please let me know. Please also note that we will be happy to feed in your inputs during the meeting in case you will not be present.

If you have instructive photographs which show situations where groundwater is at risk from sanitation systems, please share those pictures with us (via the WG11-Forum or via email to This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it ). Probably a collection of “Don´t Do It Like This”-photos will help further understanding.]]>
WG 11 (Groundwater) Wed, 03 Sep 2014 08:53:25 +0000
WaSH case study Yaoundé / Cameroon (fr) - Pilot Study on Groundwater Quality and Health in Yaoundé - by: epesshydro1 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9984-wash-case-study-yaounde--cameroon-fr-pilot-study-on-groundwater-quality-and-health-in-yaounde#9984 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9984-wash-case-study-yaounde--cameroon-fr-pilot-study-on-groundwater-quality-and-health-in-yaounde#9984
For download and further material please look at:

www.bgr.bund.de/cameroon-epess

and

www.statistics-cameroon.org

Key features of the report (190 p) are:

- Groundwater microbiology and geochemistry of urban environments
- Quantitative household WaSH-survey (1137 households)
- Thematic mapping with Open Source GIS

For the EPESS-Team


P.S.: The english version (in prep.) will be announced upon availability


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Note by moderator (EvM): I guess you mean this report:
INS & BGR (2013): Etude Pilote sur la Pollution des Eaux de Surface et Souterraines à Yaoundé et son Impact sur la Santé des Populations Riveraines (EPESS). - Final Technical Report: 190 p., 117 fig., 75 tab., 24 maps, 11 ann.; Yaoundé, Hanovre, Bonn. (PDF, 80 MB)

The link is here under Literature (second bullet point):
www.bgr.bund.de/EN/Themen/Wasser/Projekt...erun/kamerun_en.html

It is however 80 MB large which is not so practical. Could you please provide a lower resolution version? Even with the fast internet connection that I am on, I gave up after a few minutes of downloading time, and I thought of Chris Canaday in Ecuador for example who struggles with anything larger than say 5 MB.
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WG 11 (Groundwater) Tue, 02 Sep 2014 13:25:36 +0000
Safer siting of sanitation systems : An introduction to criteria for risk reduction to groundwater quality - by: kanalwolf http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#9843 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/64-wg-11-groundwater/9843-safer-siting-of-sanitation-systems--an-introduction-to-criteria-for-risk-reduction-to-groundwater-quality#9843
In response to the discussions on the forum with regard to the safe siting of sanitation systems we thought to draft a small "checklist"-document on this topic.

The intention is to illustrate the most basic rules, to raise awareness and to inform about entry points for a more detailed approach.

Attached you find a first draft document, not for quotation but as an invitation to comments and suggestions for improvement.

We hope to discuss the suitability, usefulness and the content of the checklist-document during the upcoming SuSanA Meeting in Stockholm, 5.+6th of September. If there is sufficient interest, we will have a working group meeting on the 6th of September, 11:00-13:00 in Stockholm.
SuSanA draft meeting agenda

Kind regards,
Leif

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Dr. Leif Wolf
SuSanA WG11 co-lead]]>
WG 11 (Groundwater) Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:54:09 +0000