SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication http://forum.susana.org/ Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:44:23 +0000 Kunena 1.6 http://forum.susana.org/components/com_kunena/template/default/images/icons/rss.png SuSanA - Forum http://forum.susana.org/ en-gb Re: City Sanitation Plans (CSP) in India (old title DEWATS in India) - by: AnanyaGh http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/1525-city-sanitation-plans-csp-in-india-old-title-dewats-in-india?limit=12&start=12#4259 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/1525-city-sanitation-plans-csp-in-india-old-title-dewats-in-india?limit=12&start=12#4259
Thanks a ton for sharing the documents. Each of them are pretty comprehensive and I enjoyed going through each one of them. Great job!

All best wishes,

Regards,

Ananya]]>
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:36:06 +0000
Re: City Sanitation Plans (CSP) in India (old title DEWATS in India) - by: CeciliaRodrigues http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/1525-city-sanitation-plans-csp-in-india-old-title-dewats-in-india?limit=12&start=12#4248 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/1525-city-sanitation-plans-csp-in-india-old-title-dewats-in-india?limit=12&start=12#4248
@Kiku, thank you for your comment. I am sure there is a lot to learn with the experience of GIZ India regarding the preparation of CSPs.

@Ananya, the project in Kochi is still a work in progress, as part of the same program of GIZ India, already mentioned in this thread by my colleagues Moritz and Christian. You can have a look at the city sanitation plan of Kochi, available in the SuSanA library (as well as Nashik, Raipur, Shimla, Tirupati): www.susana.org/lang-en/library?view=ccbk...p;type=2&id=1582

@Leon, I supposed you already finished your work by now. Anyways, since the elaboration of the NUSP, around 150 cities out of 7600 (roughly) developed their CSPs, mainly with the support of consultants, and around 10 states out of 28 developed their State Sanitation Strategy, as prescribed by the policy document. It seems a small progress and I can't tell you yet the influence of the document on the ground, simply put, how they contributed to the improvement of living condition of the population, specially the poorest sectors. Nevertheless, the recognition of a federal government in a country with the dimensions of India already signalizes the recognition of the issue and brings sanitation a bit higher in the agenda. It also moves one step forward towards the realization of sanitation as a human right. Many other steps in between are still to developed, strengthened, but then we can leave it to a next post... Btw, could you send us your work? I would be curious to read it! Here is a factsheet that explains a bit the NUSP and the GIZ program here: www.susana.org/lang-en/library?view=ccbk...p;type=2&id=1584

All the best,
Cecilia.]]>
WG 6 (cities) Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:43:57 +0000
Re: City Sanitation Plans (CSP) in India (old title DEWATS in India) - by: Kiku http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/1525-city-sanitation-plans-csp-in-india-old-title-dewats-in-india?limit=12&start=12#4245 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/1525-city-sanitation-plans-csp-in-india-old-title-dewats-in-india?limit=12&start=12#4245
The issues in developing and emerging economies are similar. From unclear policy and institutional environments to lack of robust/innovative funding mechanisms to governance issues, I foresee similar challenges to what colleagues in India are facing. Nonetheless, planning is always a step in the right direction.

Best,
Fredrick]]>
WG 6 (cities) Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:26:48 +0000
Re: City Sanitation Plans (CSP) in India (old title DEWATS in India) - by: AnanyaGh http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/1525-city-sanitation-plans-csp-in-india-old-title-dewats-in-india?limit=12&start=12#4216 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/1525-city-sanitation-plans-csp-in-india-old-title-dewats-in-india?limit=12&start=12#4216 This is great initiative. Can we have more details about the program and its implementation? It will be a great help if more information on this is shared.
Thanks,
Ananya]]>
WG 6 (cities) Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:26:25 +0000
Re: City Sanitation Plans (CSP) in India (old title DEWATS in India) - by: susanaforum http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/1525-city-sanitation-plans-csp-in-india-old-title-dewats-in-india?limit=12&start=12#4210 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/1525-city-sanitation-plans-csp-in-india-old-title-dewats-in-india?limit=12&start=12#4210
See if you can spot Co-Lead of WG6 Rahul in the picture.

newindianexpress.com/cities/kochi/Decent...41.ece#tabs-275876-1]]>
WG 6 (cities) Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:00:29 +0000
Re: Environmental Health Risk Assessment to support City Sanitation Planning - by: jonpar http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2822 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2822 WG 6 (cities) Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:40:43 +0000 Re: Environmental Health Risk Assessment to support City Sanitation Planning - by: jonpar http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2821 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2821
www.iwawaterwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Even...tationSafetyPlanning

www.iwawaterwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Even...tationSafetyPlanning]]>
WG 6 (cities) Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:28:06 +0000
Re: Environmental Health Risk Assessment to support City Sanitation Planning - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2817 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2817
For example take flood risks due to stormwater; first of all it is already difficult to properly assess (or model), and then due to unplanned and rapidly expanding cities the impacts of it can change within months.
So unless significant man-hours and money are put into these plans and an update is done more or less constantly, they run the risk of being just another nice (and outdated) report on the shelf of a sewer utility.

So, I think it is a very interesting concept for sure, and when you are aware of it's potential shortcomings and dangers, it will definitely improve the sanitary conditions of a city.
However if I look at how WSP are promoted for each and every (small) water supply system, and seeing that this (in comparison) relatively simple concept is still often just a "dead piece of paper", I have my doubts that those "sanitary safety plans" will fare much better.]]>
WG 6 (cities) Mon, 10 Dec 2012 05:37:53 +0000
Re: Environmental Health Risk Assessment to support City Sanitation Planning - by: jonpar http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2816 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2816 www.iwawaterwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Arti...AStudyImplementation for more information about this. regards, Jonathan]]> WG 6 (cities) Sun, 09 Dec 2012 23:44:33 +0000 Re: Environmental Health Risk Assessment to support City Sanitation Planning - by: jonpar http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2815 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2815 WG 6 (cities) Sun, 09 Dec 2012 23:35:35 +0000 Re: Environmental Health Risk Assessment to support City Sanitation Planning - by: Meera http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2805 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2805 WG 6 (cities) Sun, 09 Dec 2012 08:59:32 +0000 Re: Environmental Health Risk Assessment to support City Sanitation Planning - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2801 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2801 But I am definitly going to follow this closely.]]> WG 6 (cities) Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:51:11 +0000 Environmental Health Risk Assessment to support City Sanitation Planning - by: jonpar http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2798 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2798-environmental-health-risk-assessment-to-support-city-sanitation-planning#2798
I am excited by the application for Environmental Health Risk Assessment (EHRA) to support city sanitation planning and it's potential as a tool for 'sanitation safety planning'. This is an area that WHO and IWA are both interested in and work is underway to produce a methodology for this purpose. But this is not altogether new as there are however existing experiences such as in Indonesia. For more information, please see :

www.iwawaterwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Arti...AStudyImplementation for more information.

I see this approach providing an "entry point" into the complexities urban sanitation sector insofar as the mean in which local stakeholders can identify where the problems lie (both geographically and the main causal factors); leading to a diagnostic and a discussion about roles and responsibilities in dealing with the problems. (Note that this is different from water safety planning which starts with a better defined system (both physically and institutionally).

We have organised a couple of interested workshops recently. One at the UNC Water and Health conference and one at the IWA Water Safety Planning conference in Kampala. You can see the presentation on IWA's WaterWiki :

www.iwawaterwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Even...tationSafetyPlanning

www.iwawaterwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Even...tationSafetyPlanning

I'd be interested in your feedback on this and any experiences that you have to share.

best regards,

Jonathan

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WG 6 (cities) Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:22:34 +0000
Re: relation between bad odor and poor sanitation in urban chanels, comments and remedation? - by: fppirco http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2562-relation-between-bad-odor-and-poor-sanitation-in-urban-chanels-comments-and-remedation?limit=12&start=12#2624 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2562-relation-between-bad-odor-and-poor-sanitation-in-urban-chanels-comments-and-remedation?limit=12&start=12#2624

Thanks alot for your photo ,and afew cases here may have some similarty in health realted issue, illegal disacharge solid waste and sewage ,the problem invisibile waste but with bad odore smelling may consequences of anaerobic digestion and process.


best regards

Mohammad]]>
WG 6 (cities) Sun, 11 Nov 2012 05:03:25 +0000
Re: relation between bad odor and poor sanitation in urban chanels, comments and remedation? - by: fppirco http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2562-relation-between-bad-odor-and-poor-sanitation-in-urban-chanels-comments-and-remedation?limit=12&start=12#2623 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/2562-relation-between-bad-odor-and-poor-sanitation-in-urban-chanels-comments-and-remedation?limit=12&start=12#2623
Thank you for your mail and explanation which is true about bad odor and illiegal discahrge of sewer. It certainly will be a serious concern in the large cites in developing countries with poor sanaitation plan.

I also thanks of all send comments offer remediation and from Susan forum admin as well as.

Mohammad Mojtabei
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Mashhad,Iran]]>
WG 6 (cities) Sat, 10 Nov 2012 03:10:33 +0000