SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication Wed, 22 Oct 2014 23:06:55 +0000 Kunena 1.6 SuSanA - Forum en-gb Re: sanitation 21 - by: jonpar
Thanks very for your message.

I agree the document could be longer (although initially we were trying to produce something quite a bit shorter that what is available. It could in fact be a full book but there are two reasons why it isn't

Firstly, although it would provide more comprehensive technical guidance, we didn't set out to prepare a book on the topic as we wanted a document that was more accessible.

Secondly, even if we had wanted to produce a book, it would have taken alot more time to prepare and we didn't have this time available.

It would however be great if it could be expanded with a SuSanA/IWA working group taking this on board.

Maybe I am not understanding your point but I am a bit confused by your comment in reference to Box 1 which describes the experiences from Dschang, Cameroon. The information is from PS-Eau. The predominant type of sanitation in the city is on-site not sewerage and therefore it would be of less relevance to cities which are predominantly covered by sewerage

best regards,

WG 6 (cities) Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:47:47 +0000
Re: sanitation 21 - by: F H Mughal
The publication is interesting, though it is too short (38 pp) for such an important topic. Kindly help me out on an aspect that is bothering me. The document is meant for urban sanitation services (pp. 11). Urban centers (for example, in Pakistan – cities like Karachi, Lahore, and Hyderabad) have sewer system laid and managed by the municipal authorities. We don’t have to undergo any headache. Domestic and industrial wastewaters flow in the sewer system, conveyed to wastewater treatment plants and onwards for disposal.

Box 1 says: “Install systems for safe management of pit latrine faecal sludge and septage from septic tanks.” This would pertain to the sanitary conditions in rural areas here, where households have pit latrines, or septic tank-soak pit systems. This is not quite clear to me, perhaps, you can help me out.

Or, is it that the publication was written for sanitation systems in developed countries?


F H Mughal]]>
WG 6 (cities) Wed, 22 Oct 2014 17:02:06 +0000
Re: sanitation 21 - by: muench
Relationship to the previous Sanitation21

In 2006, an IWA Task Group produced a framework for
city sanitation planning entitled Sanitation21 – Simple
Approaches to Complex Sanitation: A Draft Framework for
Analysis. This document was based on the realization that
improving the quality and effectiveness of sanitation services
requires a much broader range of considerations other than
those related to the type of technology employed. The Task
Force recognised that successful sanitation planning activities
need to be based on a sound understanding of the existing
situation and respond to demand from an improved sanitation
service at different levels – from the household level to the
municipal authorities (IWA, 2006).

This new publication encapsulates experiences in sanitation
planning, particularly from those from India and Indonesia, to
ground the conceptual framework into reality. It also draws
from other relevant documentation such as Effective Strategic
Planning for Urban Sanitation Service - Fundamentals
of Good Practice produced by GHK, Urban Sanitation: A
Guide to Strategic Planning published by Practical Action
Publishing, and documentation from
Eawag-Sandec related to the Household-Centre Environmental
Sanitation Approach and, more recently, the Community-Led
Urban Environmental Sanitation (CLUES) planning guidelines.

Readers familiar with the original Sanitation21 planning
framework will see that the fundamentals of Sanitation21
presented below are essentially the same. This new document
builds on the previous document, but places stronger emphasis
on the planning process and activities to strengthen planning
to ensure that the outcomes from investments to improve
sanitation service delivery are sustainable.

And about the target group:

Who should read this document?

This document is for those who are concerned about the quality
of urban sanitation services and are looking for guidance to
improve these services. Therefore, it will be of interest to those
who work for local authorities, utilities or non-governmental
organizations as well as consultants providing advice about
ways to improve sanitation service delivery. Box 1 provides a
good example of how efforts put into the planning process can
pay off in terms of attracting investment for implementation.
This can be used to illustrate to institutional stakeholders the
benefit of planning.

I assume but haven't checked that some of the comments made in this thread were also taken into consideration in one way or another. I might check with Christoph Lüthi as well if he can say something about that.

In case you are wondering why I am talking about this document right now, it's because when I recently edited the Wikipedia page on sustainable sanitation ( I added a section on planning systems and thought it's an important reference to cite. If anyone wants to improve the Wikipedia article further, or tell me what I should do to improve it further please be my guest.

I think good thorough planning is paramount for achieving sustainable sanitation systems.

WG 6 (cities) Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:29:55 +0000
Re: sanitation 21 - by: jonpar WG 6 (cities) Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:44:33 +0000 Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: ben
Here is an article on rom campsites that might interest you, from aquaterre (Strasbourg)

WG 6 (cities) Fri, 19 Sep 2014 12:04:56 +0000
Introduction: GIZ programme on Urban Sanitation in India ("Support to National Urban Sanitation Policy”) - by: dirkwalther
I am managing a Urban Sanitation Programme in India on behalf of GIZ. The name of the programme is “Support to National Urban Sanitation Policy” (SNUSP).

Under the backdrop of bilateral cooperation between the Government of India and Germany, the Ministry of Urban Development (MoUD), government of India has requested GIZ for support at national, state and city level in implementing the National Urban Sanitation Policy (NUSP).
The National Urban Sanitation Policy adopted by the MoUD in 2008 was the crucial political step for improving the urban sanitation sector in India.

The vision of this policy is that “All Indian cities and towns become totally sanitized, healthy, livable”.

Under the Programme “Support to the National Urban Sanitation Policy” (SNUSP) GIZ provides technical support and work to improve the capacities and knowledge for implementing the NUSP in a improved and sustainable way. This support covers technical advise based on evidence, testing of sanitation solutions on the ground and development of the NUSP instruments, State Sanitation Strategies and City Sanitation Plans.

The SNUSP programme has successfully completed its 3 years of work which included support of all three goverment tiers at national, state and city level.

As part of the GIZ -SNUSP Programme, 6 Indian cities were supported in the preparation of their City Sanitation Plans (Cochin, Nashik, Raipur, Shimla, Tirupati and Varanasi).

Cities have been hand-held in implementing CSP activities like:
• Rehabilitation of sewerage system
• Hydraulic assessment of trunk sewer to avoid wastewater discharge in holy river Godavari
• Capacity building of plumbers associated with Municipalities in the cities
• Decentralised on-site waste water treatment system in areas where centralised conventional treatment systems are not viable i.e. coastal region and hilly ares
• Improved public toilet facilities in densely populated areas
• Improved sanitation condition in schools located in underserved areas

The objective is to capacitate Urban Local Bodies (ULBs) in how to use CSPs to improve citywide sanitation and to promote working models, which later can feed into the preparation of the State Sanitation Strategies (SSS) for upscaling and to guide other cities in the replication of the same.

Relevant experiences, learnings and insights from the state, city and pilot level interventions by GIZ with its partners are fed into the national level policy dialogue. SNUSP made use of a Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) comprising of highly recognised international and national experts and developed national advisories on Septage Management and Indian Water Utility. The roadmap on how to implement septage management in an integrated manner was acknowledged by MoUD. The ministry will use this with other states to guide the preparation of State Sanitation Strategy.

The planning, implementation and monitoring processes and tools, a wide selection of technical options and the main lessons learnt from the cities and states have been compiled in a manager’s handbook (CSP Primer) and a Self-Review Checklist. Those, together with the five pilot cities’ CSP and factsheets have been made available at the MoUD’s website to guide cities in the preparation of City Sanitation Plans.

Till date the programme after 3 years has been able to demonstrate some significant outputs and outcomes including on-ground projects, policy advocacy to many knowledge products. In India, cities are emerging as the main economic centres and very soon more than half of its population will live in the cities putting immense pressure on basic services like sanitation, drinking water and others. To cope with the situation the country needs further support in infrastructure development, management, operation and maintenance. GIZ SNUSP will continue working hand in hand with the Ministry of Urban Development, Government of India until 2017 to make the vision of NUSP that is “100% clean, hygienic and safe cities” a reality.

For more information visit our work at:


Dirk Walther
Senior Advisor
Support to the National Urban Sanitation Policy (SNUSP)
Sustainable Urban Habitat
Deutsche Gesellschaft fuer Internationale Zusammenarbeit (GIZ) GmbH, India]]>
WG 6 (cities) Thu, 07 Aug 2014 07:16:48 +0000
Fact-sheets on some initiatives of GIZ “Support to the National Urban Sanitation Policy” (SNUSP), India - by: Soma Hydraulic assessment of trunk sewer to avoid wastewater discharge in holy river Godavari; Improved public toilet facilities in densely populated areas.

For more information on the GIZ SNUSP programme visit]]>
WG 6 (cities) Mon, 04 Aug 2014 07:09:24 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: abrown
"local authorities would make available and would maintain sanitary facilities for the poorest people: public toilets and free in public more than 3500 inhabitants, public showers and free for the poor in public over 15,000 inhabitants."

Good to hear. Also, I wasn't aware that there are around 2 million in France without safe water (as referenced in the Abbot Pierre Foundation report). Now I'd like to get a copy of that report. Have a great day!

Thanks again.
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 01 Aug 2014 07:40:24 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: cecile
Here is a link a to a simple article on the subject of access to water which explains the background to the petition co-launched by Coalition Eau (cf. post from Jean Marie Ily.

Kind regards,

WG 6 (cities) Mon, 28 Jul 2014 14:55:58 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: abrown
Thanks for sending the Coalition Eau link: Actually, I only found out about them today. The more that I'm learning about organizations working for a "right to water" in France, the more that I'm surprised we don't have such widespread initiatives in the US. Or maybe I'm not surprised. Most of our "right to water" initiatives are focused on those people and locations in the "Global South."

Anyhow, I will check out member organizations of the coalition. I'm considering doing a part-time internship (even unpaid) from September to December in Paris because it will be a good way to learn more about how these organizations work for a "right to water" here. This coalition provides many contacts. Thank you!

Best Regards.
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 18 Jul 2014 13:05:22 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: abrown
Great hear how your project is changing and moving forward since the last time we chatted. Yes, I'm excited to read your abstract soon. (I'm taking an intensive French language program now in Paris, and reading helps my skills progress faster.)

You might like to know that I've also been trying to visit dry toilets in Paris. There are some sustainable buildings on the edge of the city that installed dry toilets, and also some artist squats here using dry toilets. I've only visited one of the artist squats to see their dry toilet, and they were mixing pee/poo because they worried that people would not be inclined to use UD systems yet.

If you ever make it to Paris and want to chat more, that would be nice. Also, do you know of other dry toilets in Paris that I should visit? I'm really interested in the value of decentralized watsan technologies as creative solutions to processes of exclusion (even in the “Global North”).

Have a great day!
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:56:54 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: abrown
Thanks for sending along this information. Great to hear about Terr'Eau. Projects around equitable watsan in the “Global North” inspire me. It would be great to to talk with you more about your work in Paris on sanitation with the "Gens du Voyage” and the participatory field guide for “sanitation precariousness.”

In 2010, started out my work in watsan looking at gender, empowerment, and watsan in rural India with an interest in participatory methods (here is the paper). Upon returning to the US, began volunteering with Public Hygiene Lets Us Stay Human where we focused on public toilet design and access among other things. We were contacted by people sans abri hoping to collaborate for watsan solutions. Soon after, I realized we had ~3 million unhoused people and 1.7 housed people in the country without water and sanitation. So began to critically wonder:

(1) Why do processes of exclusion occur in watsan for certain people in countries that often espouse almost 100 percent access to watsan?
(2) What kinds of creative solutions (decentralized, informal, etc.) are being employed by these individuals for watsan?

Now, enrolled in a sociology PhD program to investigate such issues further. Trying to be involved global health and women's empowerment program in action and scholarship simultaneously. Last summer, developed a proposal while at a global health and women's empowerment program to implement a participatory project for watsan for people living in US group camps (will email to you). It was never submitted for funding.

For my research, thought it could be valuable to undertake a comparative study of urban spaces in two cities in separate countries (Paris and city in the US) to understand how exclusionary processes around watsan occur along with creative responses to such exclusion. Paris is a natural choice for a comparison city because of the watsan history here.

Sorry about such a long message, but it would be really great to chat more. Going to send you an email now. Have a great day.

Best Regards.
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:48:42 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: jmily

They are leading and advocacy campain for the Right to water and sanitation in France.


WG 6 (cities) Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:26:17 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: ben
I'm from Montpellier and developping a project to bring dry toilets in dense urban environment. I just wanted to tell you that in the main proposal I'm setting up these days for the agglomeration of Montpellier (including 31 towns around Montpellier) is actually, after discussing it with them, focused on gypsies and homeless people.

Here is the extract :

47.1 Accès aux sanitaires
Conformément à la charte d’engagements visée à l’Article 5, la Collectivité souhaite
faciliter l’accès pour tous à des sanitaires publics.
Dans ce cadre, le Délégataire s’engage à mettre en œuvre les actions suivantes :
.................................. (à remplir par le candidat).
47.2 Solidarité locale
La Collectivité souhaite mettre en place avec les CCAS des communes un dispositif de
« chèque-eau » à destination des usagers en situation de pauvreté-précarité.
Le Délégataire abonde chaque année ce dispositif à hauteur de 0,5% de ses recettes
annuelles d’exploitation (hors produits accessoires et produits liés aux travaux). Les
sommes correspondantes sont versées selon les mêmes modalités que la part
47.3 « Collectivité ».
Le Délégataire apportera par ailleurs son concours à la Collectivité de la façon suivante :
.................................. (à remplir par le candidat en proposant par exemple une aide à la gestion ou tout autre dispositif complémentaire).
47.4 Coopération décentralisée
Le Délégataire s’engage à promouvoir, aux côtés de la Collectivité, des actions de
coopération décentralisée dans le domaine de l’eau. Le Délégataire abonde chaque année ce dispositif à hauteur de 0,5% de ses recettes annuelles d’exploitation (hors produits accessoires et produits liés aux travaux). Les sommes correspondantes sont versées selon les mêmes modalités que la part « Collectivité ». Ce versement permet à la Collectivité de constituer un fonds qu’elle abonde dans la limite de 1% de ses propres recettes.
Ce fonds finance des projets de coopération décentralisée retenus par la Collectivité.

The situation for the gypsi camps in many areas of france is extremly shamefull, it's a very complicated matter, no doubt about it, but the fact that far too many politicians from all sides are campaingning on the evacuations of these camps is just so shamefull for me. Extract from the kind of guys we've got here : we could ask him if he though about sanitation in his camps.

Tell me if you need a translation, I won't have time in the next few days but if you're patient enough I'll do it.

Your research is very important, good luck and thanks for carrying it and please share the results with us so we can spread it in the sanitation sector here.

WG 6 (cities) Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:11:58 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: Lael
I work in a small organization, Terr'Eau, located in south-west of France. We're member of the RAE.

We've worked on different settlements around Toulouse with migrants from eastern Europe (most of them were Roma, but it doesn't matter...). We also worked on some projects in Paris area with "french gypsies", administratively called "Gens du Voyage".

We quickly realized that the main issue wasn't on sanitation technics, but rather in the methodology used by volunteers and charities organization who were willing to help them not in a participative way. We started to work with Anne Delmaire of Toilettes du Monde to build a methodological guide for field organization helping people in "sanitary precariousness", that is to say people without (or with bad or little) access to water and sanitation. As you seem to speak French, you can watch this video presenting our work :

The guide is inspired of methods and tools like SARAR and PHAST. We adapted and created some tools for those situations of precariousness in France, which mainly concerns migrants from eastern europe and "French Gypsies". Our work is not completed yet, we still have some editing to make and then all the publishing.

I'm far from Paris, but I can give you contacts of people involved on settlements. You can contact me by mail : lien [à] terreau [dot] org

Best regards,

Lael Delort
Association Terr'Eau]]>
WG 6 (cities) Wed, 16 Jul 2014 09:29:06 +0000