SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication http://forum.susana.org/ Tue, 02 Sep 2014 01:50:02 +0000 Kunena 1.6 http://forum.susana.org/components/com_kunena/template/default/images/icons/rss.png SuSanA - Forum http://forum.susana.org/ en-gb Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: abrown http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9585 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9585
"local authorities would make available and would maintain sanitary facilities for the poorest people: public toilets and free in public more than 3500 inhabitants, public showers and free for the poor in public over 15,000 inhabitants."

Good to hear. Also, I wasn't aware that there are around 2 million in France without safe water (as referenced in the Abbot Pierre Foundation report). Now I'd like to get a copy of that report. Have a great day!

Thanks again.
Abby]]>
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 01 Aug 2014 07:40:24 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: cecile http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9520 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9520
Here is a link a to a simple article on the subject of access to water which explains the background to the petition co-launched by Coalition Eau (cf. post from Jean Marie Ily.

Kind regards,

Cecile]]>
WG 6 (cities) Mon, 28 Jul 2014 14:55:58 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: abrown http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9394 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9394
Thanks for sending the Coalition Eau link: www.coalition-eau.org. Actually, I only found out about them today. The more that I'm learning about organizations working for a "right to water" in France, the more that I'm surprised we don't have such widespread initiatives in the US. Or maybe I'm not surprised. Most of our "right to water" initiatives are focused on those people and locations in the "Global South."

Anyhow, I will check out member organizations of the coalition. I'm considering doing a part-time internship (even unpaid) from September to December in Paris because it will be a good way to learn more about how these organizations work for a "right to water" here. This coalition provides many contacts. Thank you!

Best Regards.
ab]]>
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 18 Jul 2014 13:05:22 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: abrown http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9393 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9393
Great hear how your project is changing and moving forward since the last time we chatted. Yes, I'm excited to read your abstract soon. (I'm taking an intensive French language program now in Paris, and reading helps my skills progress faster.)

You might like to know that I've also been trying to visit dry toilets in Paris. There are some sustainable buildings on the edge of the city that installed dry toilets, and also some artist squats here using dry toilets. I've only visited one of the artist squats to see their dry toilet, and they were mixing pee/poo because they worried that people would not be inclined to use UD systems yet.

If you ever make it to Paris and want to chat more, that would be nice. Also, do you know of other dry toilets in Paris that I should visit? I'm really interested in the value of decentralized watsan technologies as creative solutions to processes of exclusion (even in the “Global North”).

Have a great day!
Abby]]>
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:56:54 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: abrown http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9392 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9392
Thanks for sending along this information. Great to hear about Terr'Eau. Projects around equitable watsan in the “Global North” inspire me. It would be great to to talk with you more about your work in Paris on sanitation with the "Gens du Voyage” and the participatory field guide for “sanitation precariousness.”

In 2010, started out my work in watsan looking at gender, empowerment, and watsan in rural India with an interest in participatory methods (here is the paper). Upon returning to the US, began volunteering with Public Hygiene Lets Us Stay Human where we focused on public toilet design and access among other things. We were contacted by people sans abri hoping to collaborate for watsan solutions. Soon after, I realized we had ~3 million unhoused people and 1.7 housed people in the country without water and sanitation. So began to critically wonder:

(1) Why do processes of exclusion occur in watsan for certain people in countries that often espouse almost 100 percent access to watsan?
(2) What kinds of creative solutions (decentralized, informal, etc.) are being employed by these individuals for watsan?

Now, enrolled in a sociology PhD program to investigate such issues further. Trying to be involved global health and women's empowerment program in action and scholarship simultaneously. Last summer, developed a proposal while at a global health and women's empowerment program to implement a participatory project for watsan for people living in US group camps (will email to you). It was never submitted for funding.

For my research, thought it could be valuable to undertake a comparative study of urban spaces in two cities in separate countries (Paris and city in the US) to understand how exclusionary processes around watsan occur along with creative responses to such exclusion. Paris is a natural choice for a comparison city because of the watsan history here.

Sorry about such a long message, but it would be really great to chat more. Going to send you an email now. Have a great day.

Best Regards.
Abby]]>
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:48:42 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: jmily http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9391 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9391 www.coalition-eau.org/

They are leading and advocacy campain for the Right to water and sanitation in France.

Regards,

JM]]>
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:26:17 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: ben http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9390 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9390
I'm from Montpellier and developping a project to bring dry toilets in dense urban environment. I just wanted to tell you that in the main proposal I'm setting up these days for the agglomeration of Montpellier (including 31 towns around Montpellier) is actually, after discussing it with them, focused on gypsies and homeless people.

Here is the extract :

ARTICLE 47 ACCES AUX SANITAIRES ET SOLIDARITE
47.1 Accès aux sanitaires
Conformément à la charte d’engagements visée à l’Article 5, la Collectivité souhaite
faciliter l’accès pour tous à des sanitaires publics.
Dans ce cadre, le Délégataire s’engage à mettre en œuvre les actions suivantes :
.................................. (à remplir par le candidat).
47.2 Solidarité locale
La Collectivité souhaite mettre en place avec les CCAS des communes un dispositif de
« chèque-eau » à destination des usagers en situation de pauvreté-précarité.
Le Délégataire abonde chaque année ce dispositif à hauteur de 0,5% de ses recettes
annuelles d’exploitation (hors produits accessoires et produits liés aux travaux). Les
sommes correspondantes sont versées selon les mêmes modalités que la part
47.3 « Collectivité ».
Le Délégataire apportera par ailleurs son concours à la Collectivité de la façon suivante :
.................................. (à remplir par le candidat en proposant par exemple une aide à la gestion ou tout autre dispositif complémentaire).
47.4 Coopération décentralisée
Le Délégataire s’engage à promouvoir, aux côtés de la Collectivité, des actions de
coopération décentralisée dans le domaine de l’eau. Le Délégataire abonde chaque année ce dispositif à hauteur de 0,5% de ses recettes annuelles d’exploitation (hors produits accessoires et produits liés aux travaux). Les sommes correspondantes sont versées selon les mêmes modalités que la part « Collectivité ». Ce versement permet à la Collectivité de constituer un fonds qu’elle abonde dans la limite de 1% de ses propres recettes.
Ce fonds finance des projets de coopération décentralisée retenus par la Collectivité.

The situation for the gypsi camps in many areas of france is extremly shamefull, it's a very complicated matter, no doubt about it, but the fact that far too many politicians from all sides are campaingning on the evacuations of these camps is just so shamefull for me. Extract from the kind of guys we've got here : www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2014/03..._4376979_823448.html we could ask him if he though about sanitation in his camps.

Tell me if you need a translation, I won't have time in the next few days but if you're patient enough I'll do it.

Your research is very important, good luck and thanks for carrying it and please share the results with us so we can spread it in the sanitation sector here.

Ben]]>
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:11:58 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: Lael http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9368 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9368
I work in a small organization, Terr'Eau, located in south-west of France. We're member of the RAE.

We've worked on different settlements around Toulouse with migrants from eastern Europe (most of them were Roma, but it doesn't matter...). We also worked on some projects in Paris area with "french gypsies", administratively called "Gens du Voyage".

We quickly realized that the main issue wasn't on sanitation technics, but rather in the methodology used by volunteers and charities organization who were willing to help them not in a participative way. We started to work with Anne Delmaire of Toilettes du Monde to build a methodological guide for field organization helping people in "sanitary precariousness", that is to say people without (or with bad or little) access to water and sanitation. As you seem to speak French, you can watch this video presenting our work :

The guide is inspired of methods and tools like SARAR and PHAST. We adapted and created some tools for those situations of precariousness in France, which mainly concerns migrants from eastern europe and "French Gypsies". Our work is not completed yet, we still have some editing to make and then all the publishing.

I'm far from Paris, but I can give you contacts of people involved on settlements. You can contact me by mail : lien [à] terreau [dot] org

Best regards,

Lael Delort
Association Terr'Eau
www.terreau.org]]>
WG 6 (cities) Wed, 16 Jul 2014 09:29:06 +0000
SuSanA WG6 - SuSanA Meeting in Stockholm 2014 - by: rahulingle http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9302-susana-wg6-susana-meeting-in-stockholm-2014#9302 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9302-susana-wg6-susana-meeting-in-stockholm-2014#9302
We would like to raise your awareness regarding the upcoming SuSanA meeting taking place on Friday 5th and Saturday 6th September in Stockholm. Through the following link you can find the pre-meeting page: www.susana.org/lang-en/meetings/18th-sus...ing-stockholm-sweden

We would like to organise a WG6 knowledge exchange meeting on 6th September at SEI or during the week in the SWWW venue.
I therefore kindly ask you:
1) If you are interested in attending?
2) What you would expect from such a meeting?
3) If you would like to share a special topic/issue (e.g. past/current work; ideas for working group activities; etc.) either during the WG meeting or with the whole SuSanA crowd during the plenary meeting.

Please also note that I am happy to feed in your inputs during the meeting in case you will not be personally present.

We look forward seeing some of you soon! Kind regards,

Christoph Luethi and Rahul Ingle
Working group lead and co-lead]]>
WG 6 (cities) Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:12:57 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: abrown http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9242 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9242
Thanks for providing these links. I contacted Toilettes du Monde by email with no reply yet. It appears that they are a version of the French Toilet Association, but I was not able to find any contacts for a French Toilet Association directly. Likewise, I had not heard of RAE, and I'll be contacting them shortly.

Additionally, I had not heard of the Rom settlement in Montrieul. So thanks for letting me know. I found the Rom Europe coalition website and many contacts in Paris there. Again, thanks for your input. It's so useful to have a place like SuSanA to ask others for advice around sanitation globally!

Best Regards.
Abby]]>
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 04 Jul 2014 19:38:17 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: abrown http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9241 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9241
Thanks much for providing me with this fabulous contact. The "Anne Le Strat" presentation is quite forward-thinking, and it seems rare for city officials to be talking about and acting upon such issues (e.g. distribution of jerry cans to those without homes) in the "Global North." In the United States, city officials are often not addressing issues of social access to water and sanitation. Yes, I will also check with Catarina de Albuquerque. Great ideas all around. Thanks again.

Best Regards.
Abby]]>
WG 6 (cities) Fri, 04 Jul 2014 19:31:05 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: cecile http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9173 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9173
Sur le sujet de l'assainissement / accès aux sanitaires, tu peux regarder le site internet de Toilettes du Monde et celui du Réseau d'Assainissement Ecologique (RAE)où tu trouveras aussi des contacts. Je sais qu'ils ont déjà travaillé sur les problématiques d'accès des Rom aux sanitaires en proposant des toilettes sèches.
Si tu es sur Paris, tu sais peut être qu'il y a un important camp de Roms à Montreuil. Tu pourras trouver des associations qui travaillent avec eux et prendre aussi contact avec la mairie de Montreuil qui suit certainement le sujet.

Bonne continuation pour tes recherches.
Cécile

Dear Abby,
You could consult the websites of these two organisations : Toilettes du Monde and Réseau d'Assainissement Ecologique (RAE)regarding the issues of sanitation. I believe they have ran a project to provide dry toilets to the Rom in the past.
If you are in Paris, you may already know that there is an important Rom settlement in the nearby city of Montreuil. I am sure you can find several associations working with them and also there is certainly someone in charge of these issues in the townhal (mairie.

Cecile]]>
WG 6 (cities) Tue, 01 Jul 2014 09:31:00 +0000
Re: Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: Florian http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9161 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9161 some time ago I heard an interesting presentation by Anne Le Strat, head of Paris Water Supply: www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/env/water/me..._-_Anne_Le_Strat.pdf

Contacing her would be a good start I think.

And of course Catarina de Albuquerque will be able to point you to organisations and people as well: sr-watersanitation.ohchr.org/en/contacts.html

Best regards,
Florian]]>
WG 6 (cities) Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:57:46 +0000
Water and sanitation access in France. | Accès à l'eau et à le sanitaire en France - by: abrown http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9160 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/9160-water-and-sanitation-access-in-france--acces-a-leau-et-a-le-sanitaire-en-france?limit=12&start=12#9160
I am a graduate student at UC Santa Cruz in the United States studying in Paris from June 2014 to September 2014.

I am looking for people and/or organizations here focusing on issues such as: (1) urban planning, water, and sanitation; (2) homelessness; (3) Roma advocacy; or (3) general water and sanitation concerns.

Do you work on these issues in France? Do you know anyone working on these issues in France? If so, I'd love to speak with you more. My email is ablbrown [at] ucsc [dot] edu.

My research focuses on exclusion around water and sanitation in "advanced capitalist countries" (e.g. US, France, and England), and I'm currently conducting preliminary explorations in Paris.

Thanks for fielding this message.
Abby Brown

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Bonjour Madame ou Monsieur.

Mon nom est Abigail Brown. Je suis étudiante de troisième cycle á l'Université de Californie aux États-Unis. J'étudie et fais de la recherche à Paris de juin à septembre 2014.

Dans mon université, ma spécialisation est la sociologie. J'étudie pourquoi certains groupes n'ont pas accès à l'eau et aux sanitaires centralisés dans les pays dévelppés (par exemple: France, Angleterre, et les États-Unis).

Pouvons-nous parler s'il vous plaît? Je voudrais visiter votre organisation ou vos espaces de travail à l'extérieur afin de mieux comprendre le problèmes en matières d'accèss à l'eau et aux sanitaires.

Cordialement.
Abby Brown]]>
WG 6 (cities) Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:18:44 +0000
Re: Use of planning documents to guide the selection of sanitation technologies - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/7874-use-of-planning-documents-to-guide-the-selection-of-sanitation-technologies#7917 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/59-wg-6-cities/7874-use-of-planning-documents-to-guide-the-selection-of-sanitation-technologies#7917 Edit: except for Sophia) really answered if they know practical examples of the mentioned guides being used.

I know that the people involved with Sanitation21 and I think also CLUES did some research further refine their approaches and come up with a sanitation master-plan for Kampala last year. Dr. Jonathan Parkinson (a user of this forum) was behind that, but I think he has switched jobs since then.

But in my opinion those tools are largely just a very general guide and (cynically speaking) often their main benefit seems to guide the creation of nice, way to detailed "top-down" government plans that then end up sitting on a shelf.

Good "Master-plans" in sanitation are out of necessity very broad and should rather focus on creating a favorable (business) environment for a multitude of coexisting options and approaches.]]>
WG 6 (cities) Thu, 20 Mar 2014 18:05:23 +0000