SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication http://forum.susana.org/ Thu, 24 Apr 2014 20:17:35 +0000 Kunena 1.6 http://forum.susana.org/components/com_kunena/template/default/images/icons/rss.png SuSanA - Forum http://forum.susana.org/ en-gb Re: Costs of sanitation facilities - by: muench http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/8259-costs-of-sanitation-facilities#8267 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/8259-costs-of-sanitation-facilities#8267 (I moved your post into this category on costs because I think it fits better here)

I agree with what Ben said that costs are very context specific.
My first question back to you would be: for what purpose do you want to know these costs? In which country, which setting (urban/rural) and so forth?
What degree of accuracy is required?

If you want it really accurate then you should work from a concept design and bill of quantity (BoQ) - you find some examples of BoQs in the SuSanA library, e.g. by putting boq in the search field: www.susana.org/library?search=boq

If you don't want such a high level of accuracy, have you tried the WASHCost Calculator from IRC? Although this might be confusing because it spits out the whole of life costs, not the capital cost (if I understood correctly). Find it here in the forum:
forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-...-washcost-calculator

And also recently this new tool that came out of the CLARA project was advertised. It was called simplified planning tool but on second sight it is also a cost estimating tool. It includes Kenya as an example country. Have you tried it? (does it include the various systems that you are interested in or more the treatment systems?)
forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-...e-pre-planning-stage

(Ah, I just checked, the CLARA costing tool for Kenya does include UDDTs but not simple pit latrines and VIPs, as far as I can see. So maybe also not useful for you?)

Oh and then there is also this financial toolkit from Asian Development Bank, but again, I don't think it includes VIPs and simple latrines - although it does include faecal sludge management:
forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-...ancial-toolkits#8203

Please let us know more about why you asked and which resources on the internet you have already found and used and with what result?
You are based in Kenya, right?

Regards,
Elisabeth]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Fri, 18 Apr 2014 21:09:26 +0000
Re: Costs of sanitation facilities - by: ben http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/8259-costs-of-sanitation-facilities#8261 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/8259-costs-of-sanitation-facilities#8261
This exercice is unfortunatly impossible to generalise per continent.
Just for example, when latrines are made out of concrete, the cement part of the systems can reach up to 60% of the final infrastructure price. A cement bag is 4.5$ in Cambodia, 12$ in Cameroon ...
Good luck in your research but don't expect anything theoretical to be precise, only fact sheets and experiences will be able to answer your question.

Best,

Ben]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Fri, 18 Apr 2014 08:58:31 +0000
Costs of sanitation facilities - by: EstherGlotzbach http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/8259-costs-of-sanitation-facilities#8259 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/8259-costs-of-sanitation-facilities#8259
I'm trying to find out the average costs of building different sanitation facilities in (peri) urban low income areas such as VIPs, simple latrines, simple latrines with 2 pits, pour flush etc.
I know the costs differ per continent, region and even country.. but I was wondering whether anyone knows where perhaps this information may be available? (I am most interested in costs in African countries)

Thank you!]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:58:48 +0000
Re: CLARA Simplified Planning Tool - by: Langergraber http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7485-clara-simplified-planning-tool-to-compare-the-real-costs-of-various-alternatives-of-water-supply-and-sanitation-systems-in-the-pre-planning-stage#8222 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7485-clara-simplified-planning-tool-to-compare-the-real-costs-of-various-alternatives-of-water-supply-and-sanitation-systems-in-the-pre-planning-stage#8222 thanks for the question.

In principal there are 2 steps to specify the SPT for another country:
1) Data / information needed form the country (to be provided by the person/organisation that wants an update):
a. Design assumption made for each technology have to be checked if they are applicable in the country (design assumptions are included in the Appendix of the User Manual).
b. Unit prices for the country have to be provided (this list is available and will be provided).
2) Update of cost functions (based on #1) and implementation of updated costs functions in the SPT (to be done by the SPT developers)

As #2 requires personnel resources from the SPT developers, the update of the SPT for new countries can not be provided for free of charge.
If you are interested for a country-specific SPT please feel free to contact me at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it for discussing details.

With best regards,
Guenter Langergraber]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Mon, 14 Apr 2014 07:20:35 +0000
3rd ADB–Developing Member Country and Partners Sanitation Dialogue May 27-29, 2014 - by: arno http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7447-3rd-asian-development-bank-adb-and-developing-member-country-and-partners-sanitation-dialogue-may-27-29-2014-and-financial-toolkits#8203 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7447-3rd-asian-development-bank-adb-and-developing-member-country-and-partners-sanitation-dialogue-may-27-29-2014-and-financial-toolkits#8203 www.adb.org/news/events/3rd-asian-sanita...sectors/water/events

One of the items to be discussed further during the Sanitation Dialogue meetings is the innovative "Financial Toolkit" for the urban sewerage and septage sector. A first workshop was held on this in January, 2014.

Here is a link to that workshop with links to the presentations: wastewaterinfo.asia/event/joint-adb-wb-p...n-financing-workshop

The financial toolkits (in the form of Excel files) are available under Day 3.

Information provided by Paul Bulson (ADB): "This toolkit was prepared for ADB’s Philippines’ septage borrowers but ultimately is intended for all ADB clients or any one that wants to use it. You can find the toolkit, technology data sheets, case studies and more at www.wastewaterinfo.asia "

--Arno Rosemarin/SEI]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:04:15 +0000
Re: CLARA Simplified Planning Tool - by: F H Mughal http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7485-clara-simplified-planning-tool-to-compare-the-real-costs-of-various-alternatives-of-water-supply-and-sanitation-systems-in-the-pre-planning-stage#8070 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7485-clara-simplified-planning-tool-to-compare-the-real-costs-of-various-alternatives-of-water-supply-and-sanitation-systems-in-the-pre-planning-stage#8070
SPT (Simplified Planning Tool) is specific to Burkina Faso; Ethiopia; Kenya; Morocco; and South Africa

How can it be made specific to other countries, e.g., Pakistan?

Regards,

F H Mughal]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Wed, 02 Apr 2014 04:57:08 +0000
Re: CLARA Simplified Planning Tool - by: leonellhabarreto http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7485-clara-simplified-planning-tool-to-compare-the-real-costs-of-various-alternatives-of-water-supply-and-sanitation-systems-in-the-pre-planning-stage#8058 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7485-clara-simplified-planning-tool-to-compare-the-real-costs-of-various-alternatives-of-water-supply-and-sanitation-systems-in-the-pre-planning-stage#8058
thank you very much for your post related to the CLARA Simplified Planning Tool.

The SSWM Toolbox team is very pleased to count with a Factsheet in our knowledge platform (www.sswm.info), only devoted to present the CLARA SPT. For those local planners, who would like to have a direct access to it, please visit us at:

www.sswm.info/category/planning-process-...and-problem-analys-7

It is actually a very effective and simple way to compare different options for water and sanitation systems at an early planning stage! The fact that it is especially adapted to the different requirements in Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, Kenya, Morocco and South Africa, should not discourage others to revise it and use it as a reference!

Please let us know more about recent developments of the tool!

Thanks!

Leonellha Barreto Dillon

Project Manager
Seecon international gmbh
society - economy - ecology – consulting

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Web: www.seecon.ch]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Tue, 01 Apr 2014 14:30:23 +0000
Re: washcost calculator - by: dietvorst http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/2967-washcost-calculator#7925 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/2967-washcost-calculator#7925
You can already start using the tool at washcost.ircwash.org

For more information read Do the Math, Make it Last]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:06:49 +0000
Re: Tools for estimating costs to improve municipal sanitation services and environmental infrastructure - by: sjoerdkerstens http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7816-tools-for-estimating-costs-to-improve-municipal-sanitation-services-and-environmental-infrastructure#7836 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7816-tools-for-estimating-costs-to-improve-municipal-sanitation-services-and-environmental-infrastructure#7836 Since 2006 our company Royal HaskoningDHV and its partners (including IRC) have been working on an approach to plan sanitation in Indonesia. Currently this is done in the USDP (Urban Sanitation Development Program) project. At this point there are 420 cities and regencies (out of 500 in the whole of Indonesia) joining the program. After (1) an advocacy phase (done by our health cell) and (2) the setting up of a local sanitation workgroup (POKJA) done by our institutional cell), phase (3) deals with the mapping of the current sanitation situation ("white book") and formulation of the City Sanitation Strategy. Finally a detailed plan is formulated in the Program memorandum (phase 4) after which E&M is started (phase 5). For the phase 3 and 4 we have recently developed a new (xls) based tools that allow cities to do their own planning for a 20 year period for the three sub sectors wastewater, solid waste and drainage.
The first tool (which results in the white book) requires filling in a data base, with values on population, expected development of population and urbanization, land use, Environmental Health Risk Assessment (EHRA), poverty data, access data to improved sanitation and prevalence of open defecaction, solid waste collection data and current drainage problems. In this first tool, the two main outcomes are (1) priority setting and (2) zoning of areas within a city that have the same features.
The output of the this first tool is the input for the development plan for the three sub-sectors. Based on the existing situation and expected population growth and target of sanitaion for the mid term (5 years) and long term (20 years), the "gap" is calculated. based on the city's features the most feasible system is selected (for wastewater we differentiate between on-site systems, community based systems, medium centralised systems and off-site (centralised systems). Typical costs figures are used, as well as required planning documents requirements (feasibility study, Design, env Impact Asess etc) as well the typical time frame). These xls tools use the same approach as developed snice 2006, but facilitate the processing and calculations. Tools were developed since 2012 and have now been implemented/tested in a dozen cities. This year another 9 cities will be using this tool and 50 next year.

Should you have any further question, please don't hesitate to drop me a note!
best regards,
Sjoerd Kerstens]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Mon, 17 Mar 2014 01:31:08 +0000
Re: Tools for estimating costs to improve municipal sanitation services and environmental infrastructure - by: sphpan http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7816-tools-for-estimating-costs-to-improve-municipal-sanitation-services-and-environmental-infrastructure#7832 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7816-tools-for-estimating-costs-to-improve-municipal-sanitation-services-and-environmental-infrastructure#7832
Maybe someone's already mentioned it, but have you checked out the IRC WASHCost calculator: www.washcost.org/? It's still in beta version, but it has a pretty user friendly interface, and is freely accessible online.

Regards,
Sophia]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Sun, 16 Mar 2014 21:39:56 +0000
Tools for estimating costs to improve municipal sanitation services and environmental infrastructure - by: jonpar http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7816-tools-for-estimating-costs-to-improve-municipal-sanitation-services-and-environmental-infrastructure#7816 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7816-tools-for-estimating-costs-to-improve-municipal-sanitation-services-and-environmental-infrastructure#7816
This posting is equally relevant to both WG2 Finance and Economics and Working group 6 Cities and planning.

I am interested to learn about what tools have been developed to support decision-making processes in relation to budget estimates to improve municipal sanitation services and environmental infrastructure.

For example, it would be good to hear from CEPT about the application of the PIP model - see www.cdma.gov.in/cdma/Learnings/pdfs/Plan..._NUSP_India_CEPT.pdf
www.pas.org.in

Also, there is the model developed by Partners in Development mentioned in Annex F of the comprehensive report on “TACKLING THE CHALLENGES OF FULL PITS Volume 1: Understanding sludge accumulation in VIPs and strategies for emptying full pits”. Water Research Commission July 2012
www.wrc.org.za/Knowledge%20Hub%20Documen...745%20Volume%201.pdf which refers to a “financial model created in Excel used to estimate the costs of running a pit latrine emptying operation.

I am sure there are other tools that have been developed and it would be good to hear more about what these are and where they have been applied. In addition, whether they are available as open source software for others to access and utilize?

best regards,

Jonathan]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Sat, 15 Mar 2014 12:57:36 +0000
Sector wide investment and financing tool (SWIFT) - by: jonpar http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7748-sector-wide-investment-and-financing-tool-swift#7748 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7748-sector-wide-investment-and-financing-tool-swift#7748 see

akvopedia.org/wiki/Sector_Investment_Plan

and
www.washdoc.info/docsearch/title/172724

The tool has been developed as a generic representation of a water sector and is designed to assist African countries to develop simple financial plans for their water sector. The primary function of a SWIFT analysis then is to understand the financial balances in the water sector of a given country and to allow strategic analysis of options available to close those gaps.

Can anyone share their experience of using SWIFT

Jonathan]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:05:17 +0000
Re: Effectiveness of the Microcredits in Sanitation - by: F H Mughal http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7566-effectiveness-of-the-microcredits-in-sanitation#7572 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7566-effectiveness-of-the-microcredits-in-sanitation#7572
This has different aspect, in that, it is aimed to learn from the experience of other members, whether microfinance caused problems in sanitation sector.

Thank you,

F H Mughal]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:59:03 +0000
Re: Effectiveness of the Microcredits in Sanitation - by: christoph http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7566-effectiveness-of-the-microcredits-in-sanitation#7571 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7566-effectiveness-of-the-microcredits-in-sanitation#7571 I am sure you remember that we had a discussion about microfinance lately in this forum.
I did not get the point why discussing it again on another thread, as you took part in the discussion and as you are a very clear sistematic thinker for in my perspective, I thought I may have missed an additional aspect.
Could you explain?
Thank you.
Christoph]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:53:33 +0000
Re: Effectiveness of the Microcredits in Sanitation - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7566-effectiveness-of-the-microcredits-in-sanitation#7569 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/55-wg-2-finance-economics/7566-effectiveness-of-the-microcredits-in-sanitation#7569
In general the debate is around "consumptive" vs. "productive" loans, where sanitation is clearly a consumptive one and thus usually not considered a good choice by MFIs.

Personally I also think that there needs to be a debate around "dedicated" MFIs, i.e. those banking only institutions that have been build up with donor funds and do nothing but microfinance. I think this leads to unnecessarily high overhead costs and profit "optimizations" that ultimately counteract the very idea of MFIs (and let them appear not much different than the exploitative money lenders they were seeking to replace originally).
If microfinance is coupled to a real business though, lets say an agricultural input and produce trader, it can be done with much lower overhead costs and partially even at a loss if the company deems it to be beneficial in the medium to long term (and if it can be offset by other profits).

The same logic can apply to microfinance in sanitation. The entrepreneur who builds the toilet can much more efficiently offer a loan for it and later collect the payments together with regular service charges. I think this should work especially well with UDDTs as they need to be emptied more regularly.

An good idea to start this could be (government) subsidized loan insurances though, which would make it easier for such entrepreneurs to calculate the risks involved and which could be used for a "pro poor" approach permanently.]]>
WG 2 (finance, economics) Sun, 02 Mar 2014 10:10:02 +0000