SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication http://forum.susana.org/ Fri, 27 Mar 2015 06:55:19 +0000 Kunena 1.6 http://forum.susana.org/components/com_kunena/template/default/images/icons/rss.png SuSanA - Forum http://forum.susana.org/ en-gb Re: Sanitation Decision Support Tool - by: sujaya http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11526-sanitation-decision-support-tool-a-platform-for-integrated-sanitation-investment-planning-cstep-bangalore-india#12534 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11526-sanitation-decision-support-tool-a-platform-for-integrated-sanitation-investment-planning-cstep-bangalore-india#12534

The presentation was short. The purpose of the tool - Think Systems and think options - was received very well.

We worked with the City of Warangal to identify relevant systems- the work is in progress.

This was a Proof-of-Concept and we plan to modify to address FSM needs. We have a done a survey to understand the information needs of key players and now in the process of identifying how best we can accommodate the needs- simple but informative/levels of information relevant to different types of users.

Look forward to comments on the tool ...

darpan.cstep.in:9000/all_screens


Sujaya

Thanks
Sujaya]]>
WG 1 (Capacity development) Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:59:24 +0000
Re: Sanitation Decision Support Tool - by: muench http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11526-sanitation-decision-support-tool-a-platform-for-integrated-sanitation-investment-planning-cstep-bangalore-india#12469 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11526-sanitation-decision-support-tool-a-platform-for-integrated-sanitation-investment-planning-cstep-bangalore-india#12469
I checked this with Sujaya and here is what she said by e-mail:

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Our website is: cstep.in/projects/santool

The tool website is working now. Sorry for the inconvenience – the server was being changed.

darpan.cstep.in:9000/all_screens

Will update the project information page shortly.*

Thanks
Sujaya


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* She was referring to her entry in the project database here:
www.susana.org/en/resources/projects?search=cstep

Elisabeth]]>
WG 1 (Capacity development) Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:24:37 +0000
Re: Sanitation Decision Support Tool - by: dorothee.spuhler http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11526-sanitation-decision-support-tool-a-platform-for-integrated-sanitation-investment-planning-cstep-bangalore-india#12412 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11526-sanitation-decision-support-tool-a-platform-for-integrated-sanitation-investment-planning-cstep-bangalore-india#12412 WG 1 (Capacity development) Mon, 09 Mar 2015 11:10:26 +0000 Re: A good guideline or protocol for assessing the technical functionality of sanitation technologies - by: SudhirPillay http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11138-a-good-guideline-or-protocol-for-assessing-the-technical-functionality-of-sanitation-technologies#12351 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11138-a-good-guideline-or-protocol-for-assessing-the-technical-functionality-of-sanitation-technologies#12351 WG 1 (Capacity development) Thu, 05 Mar 2015 09:44:20 +0000 Re: A good guideline or protocol for assessing the technical functionality of sanitation technologies - by: dorothee.spuhler http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11138-a-good-guideline-or-protocol-for-assessing-the-technical-functionality-of-sanitation-technologies#12346 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11138-a-good-guideline-or-protocol-for-assessing-the-technical-functionality-of-sanitation-technologies#12346
I am currently working at a PhD project at Eawag to develop methods to (a) identify sanitation system options that are appropriate and (b) quantifying peformance indicators to support multi-criteria decision making.

For I am looking at methods from product development based on the definition a generic set of attributes that define the appropriateness of a given technologies. This set can then be used to identify appropriate options in a given case.

If this is of relevance to you, please contact me.
Regards
Dorothee]]>
WG 1 (Capacity development) Wed, 04 Mar 2015 18:24:44 +0000
Re: A good guideline or protocol for assessing the technical functionality of sanitation technologies - by: muench http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11138-a-good-guideline-or-protocol-for-assessing-the-technical-functionality-of-sanitation-technologies#12155 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11138-a-good-guideline-or-protocol-for-assessing-the-technical-functionality-of-sanitation-technologies#12155
Sounds great. If you (or anyone else) do/does decide to go down the Wikipedia route as a student assignment, then you can draw on tools provided by Wikipedia here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Student_assignments

E.g. I like this part of the article:

Guidance [edit source]
Advice for students [edit source]

First, welcome to Wikipedia! Wikipedia welcomes new editors, and we hope you will want to stick around after your class is over. Writing and editing here is an expression of encyclopedism using an open and free wiki. You will find that editing Wikipedia will feel quite different than writing a typical term paper, particularly because you will likely have to work with editors who are not fellow students in your class.

[...] Wikipedia is a tertiary source, so what you will write needs to be based mainly on secondary sources, and not on your own interpretations.[7] And because this is an open wiki, other editors can modify or revert the edits you make, often at the same time that you are working on your article. No person or entity (not even your class!) owns articles here, and everything you publish here instantly becomes freely-licensed to the public, which means that others are free to rewrite, reuse, or modify it for any legal purpose, as long as they credit the original source.


I would be happy to be a long-distance tutor for any student(s) doing such important Wikipedia work.

I think indeed there is a lot of information about pit emptying technology around, although the difficulty will be to really get your hands on it. It might required some interviews with key people, like Steve Sugden, Dave Still etc. I am also talking with the people from the "Fecal Sludge Omni-Ingestor Project" contract paid for by the BMGF: they now have a website (www.FSMtech.org) which is however not very detailed yet, as they are still in the R&D phase.

Regards,
Elisabeth]]>
WG 1 (Capacity development) Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:31:22 +0000
Re: A good guideline or protocol for assessing the technical functionality of sanitation technologies - by: FrancisdelosReyes http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11138-a-good-guideline-or-protocol-for-assessing-the-technical-functionality-of-sanitation-technologies#12152 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11138-a-good-guideline-or-protocol-for-assessing-the-technical-functionality-of-sanitation-technologies#12152
I can see if a student here at NC State University can take that on as a project (specifically, pit emptying technologies). It's possible to do a Wikipedia page, but also possible to do a more comprehensive and insightful analysis. I think we may have enough case studies/experiences in several countries to compare performance, costs, etc.]]>
WG 1 (Capacity development) Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:13:49 +0000
Re: Sanitation Decision Support Tool - by: muench http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11526-sanitation-decision-support-tool-a-platform-for-integrated-sanitation-investment-planning-cstep-bangalore-india#12115 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11526-sanitation-decision-support-tool-a-platform-for-integrated-sanitation-investment-planning-cstep-bangalore-india#12115 A Platform for Integrated Sanitation Investment Planning- Proof of Concept (PoC): Sujaya Rathi, CSTEP, Bangalore, India
www.susana.org/images/documents/07-cap-d...-1/1-1-4-2-Rathi.pdf

A link to the online tool is here:
darpan.cstep.in:9000/all_screens

My question to Sujaya: how was your presentation received in Hanoi and what feedback did you get? Do you see your decision support tool being used by planners in India in the near future? It is developed specifically for India for now, right?]]>
WG 1 (Capacity development) Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:52:44 +0000
Re: Sanitation Sustainability Indicators - by: Hussain http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/10259-sanitation-sustainability-indicators?limit=12&start=12#12064 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/10259-sanitation-sustainability-indicators?limit=12&start=12#12064
Thanks for the comment...I also went through your thesis; excellent & impressive work! congratulation. Actually I saw your three above mentioned points there as well. I am reading these days different related literature, and would like to you back in case of any need, if you & Dorothee don't mind.

Thanks,
Hussain]]>
WG 1 (Capacity development) Sun, 15 Feb 2015 10:17:46 +0000
Re: Sanitation Sustainability Indicators - by: Hussain http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/10259-sanitation-sustainability-indicators?limit=12&start=12#12037 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/10259-sanitation-sustainability-indicators?limit=12&start=12#12037
Thanks for the detailed response...I will go through those links and materials.

Regarding matrix framework; I am thinking to use SuSanA Sustainability Criteria against sanitation planning steps ( from different sources & adopted to my own cases in Kabul City-Afghanistan) at two different dimensions...sill this is not developed very well, but for the criteria looking for some suitable local and widely accepted global indicators. Also for the different stages of sanitation planning I think looking at approaches like CLUES, some documents like McConvilles' papers, Tanti Thesis..would be useful but at the end I need to consider the context and adopt these approaches at the implemented project in my own case study. This is the overal idea, but still need to be concreted enough.

Cheers,
Hussain]]>
WG 1 (Capacity development) Fri, 13 Feb 2015 05:26:54 +0000
Re: Sanitation Sustainability Indicators - by: tantinayono http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/10259-sanitation-sustainability-indicators?limit=12&start=12#12036 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/10259-sanitation-sustainability-indicators?limit=12&start=12#12036
There are several set of sustainable sanitation indicators suggested by organizations and researchers as Dorothee has mentioned. The challenge is to transfer the ‘global’ criteria and objectives of sustainability to our particular case study; so that the derived indicators are appropriate for our local context and we are measuring/ monitoring the right issues with these indicators. Therefore a bottom-up approach is recommended, in order to understand the real situations on the field (e.g: problems, limitations) and what the stakeholders really need.

Regarding the assessment method, I guess first of all you should know:
1. How will these indicators be used/ presented for analysis (e.g: for desk analysis, discussed in a FGD)?
2. Who will be the users of your indicators? This includes their level of knowledge, skills and familiarity with computer software.
3. How is the data availability and reliability to support the indicators?

At least these all three will determine which assessment method you might propose for your case study. In the end, as the designer we have to make sure that the indicators are operable by the intended users and can be assessed using available data.

Best regards,
Tanti]]>
WG 1 (Capacity development) Fri, 13 Feb 2015 05:24:09 +0000
Re: Sanitation Sustainability Indicators - by: Hussain http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/10259-sanitation-sustainability-indicators?limit=12&start=12#12034 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/10259-sanitation-sustainability-indicators?limit=12&start=12#12034
Thanks for your comprehensive & detailed answer, I will go through those links and documents...

Cheers,
Hussain]]>
WG 1 (Capacity development) Fri, 13 Feb 2015 04:08:20 +0000
Re: Sanitation Sustainability Indicators - by: dorothee.spuhler http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/10259-sanitation-sustainability-indicators?limit=12&start=12#12020 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/10259-sanitation-sustainability-indicators?limit=12&start=12#12020
There are many examples of sustainability criteria and indicator framework for sustainable sanitation, sanitation in general, sustainability in general or related issues.
Even though the sector agrees on the global objectives that sustainable sanitation has to fulfill: www.susana.org/en/about/sustainable-sanitation
To translate those into indicators which are transparent, understandable and realistically calculable is a challenging tasks. Moreover, there are important methodological issues related to value functions for stakeholder preferences, indicator inter-dependencies or aggregation effects …
I highly recommend you to follow the current discussion here: forum.susana.org/forum/categories/185-th...he-sanitation-ladder

The question is whether this is just something you need in order to implement your research, or if this issue takes part of your PhD research questions?
In both cases, I recommend you to due a literature review starting with e.g. some old documents from the netssaf project: www2.gtz.de/Dokumente/oe44/ecosan/en-san...ty-criteria-2008.pdf or www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/26932885/...-conventional-susana and moving then to more scientific staff like

Balkema, A.J., Preisig, H.A., Otterpohl, R. and Lambert, F.J. (2002) Indicators for the sustainability assessment of wastewater treatment systems. Urban water 4(2), 153-161.

Kvarnström, E. and Petersens, E.a. (2004) Open planning of sanitation systems, EcoSanRes Programme.

Kvarnström, E., McConville, J., Bracken, P., Johansson, M. and Fogde, M. (2011) The sanitation ladder – a need for a revamp? Journal of Water, Sanitation and Hygiene for Development 1(1), 3.

Lienert, J., Scholten, L., Egger, C. and Maurer, M. (2014) Structured decision-making for sustainable water infrastructure planning and four future scenarios. EURO Journal on Decision Processes (!Useful objective hierarchy in annex!)

And of course the thesis of Tanti (see below) or Buren on SANCHIS: Buuren, J.C.L.v. (2010) SANitation CHoice Involving Stakeholders A participatory multi-criteria method for drainage and sanitation system selection in developing cities Applied in ho chi minh city, Vietnam, Wageningen University.

Another approach then Matrix - you may consider Multi-criteria Decision Analysis or a score card options - but it would be helpful if you could elaborate a little bit more on what aou mean with "matrix frame work""?

Cheers, Dorothee]]>
WG 1 (Capacity development) Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:23:14 +0000
Re: Sanitation Sustainability Indicators - by: Hussain http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/10259-sanitation-sustainability-indicators?limit=12&start=12#11973 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/10259-sanitation-sustainability-indicators?limit=12&start=12#11973
My name is Hussain...working on my PhD. I am planning to use SuSanA Sustainability Criteria for my research and want to use matrix frame work for my case study analysis. All local indicators for above-mentioned criteria would be determined by myself through site visits, interview...but I need to know is there any set of global indicators developed by SuSanA itself for its criteria?

Also can you suggest me another tool except matrix to use for sustainability analysis?

Thanks,
Hussain]]>
WG 1 (Capacity development) Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:18:06 +0000
Re: A good guideline or protocol for assessing the technical functionality of sanitation technologies - by: SudhirPillay http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11138-a-good-guideline-or-protocol-for-assessing-the-technical-functionality-of-sanitation-technologies#11881 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/54-wg-1-capacity-development/11138-a-good-guideline-or-protocol-for-assessing-the-technical-functionality-of-sanitation-technologies#11881 WG 1 (Capacity development) Wed, 04 Feb 2015 08:35:56 +0000