SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication http://forum.susana.org/ Sun, 23 Nov 2014 01:54:32 +0000 Kunena 1.6 http://forum.susana.org/components/com_kunena/template/default/images/icons/rss.png SuSanA - Forum http://forum.susana.org/ en-gb Re: New video!! Innovation in Urban Sanitation: FaME and U-ACT research in Sub-Saharan Africa - by: christoph http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11062-new-video-innovation-in-urban-sanitation-fame-and-u-act-research-in-sub-saharan-africa#11093 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11062-new-video-innovation-in-urban-sanitation-fame-and-u-act-research-in-sub-saharan-africa#11093
especially the way towards use for burning seems an interesting approach, I think this depends VERY much on how we can bring costs down for drying. If that is possible it might be THE solution.

Thank you.
Christoph]]>
Faecal sludge management Sat, 22 Nov 2014 13:11:22 +0000
Re: New video!! Innovation in Urban Sanitation: FaME and U-ACT research in Sub-Saharan Africa - by: ben http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11062-new-video-innovation-in-urban-sanitation-fame-and-u-act-research-in-sub-saharan-africa#11091 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11062-new-video-innovation-in-urban-sanitation-fame-and-u-act-research-in-sub-saharan-africa#11091
Thanks fo sharing, and congratulation to the Eawag team you're always very good at sharing knowledge and research through nice videos and publications.

I'd be curious to know how much you increased the rate of trucks de-sludging in facilities making them free access. In Phnom penh where law inforcment was totally ineffective cause only the cost of fuel (+ time consumed) going to the plant would make them de-sludge everywhere. Looking forward to read the full report.

Good luck for all,

Ben]]>
Faecal sludge management Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:38:09 +0000
Re: Case studies for regulated / scheduled cleaning of septic tanks - by: ggalli http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11069-case-studies-for-regulated--scheduled-cleaning-of-septic-tanks#11074 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11069-case-studies-for-regulated--scheduled-cleaning-of-septic-tanks#11074
This is a very interesting management model that I've also been exploring. I know that IUWASH, a USAID-financed project in Indonesia has been experimenting wth this: iuwash.or.id/US/news/layanan-penyedotan-...u-bersihkan-belawan/
iuwash.or.id/US/news/uptd-pal-bagian-int...itasi-berkelanjutan/

I also heard that Vitens evides International was doing somthing similar in Nakuru County, Kenya but can't find any links on that.

Hope this helps. Keep us up to date on your progress I'm very interested on how this proceeds.

Best,
Giacomo]]>
Faecal sludge management Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:27:22 +0000
Re: Case studies for regulated / scheduled cleaning of septic tanks - by: aasimmansuri http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11069-case-studies-for-regulated--scheduled-cleaning-of-septic-tanks#11073 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11069-case-studies-for-regulated--scheduled-cleaning-of-septic-tanks#11073
We also found that these scheduled emptying aspect is also carried out in Philippines.

Are there any other countries and cities where this has been done.

Many thanks

Regards,
Aasim]]>
Faecal sludge management Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:37:41 +0000
Re: Case studies for regulated / scheduled cleaning of septic tanks - by: Florian http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11069-case-studies-for-regulated--scheduled-cleaning-of-septic-tanks#11071 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11069-case-studies-for-regulated--scheduled-cleaning-of-septic-tanks#11071 I think Malaysia could be a good example. The BMGF Landscape Analyis includes some information: www.susana.org/en/resources/library/details/1670 but there may be better reports/studies focussing on the scheduled emptying aspect.
Regards, Florian]]>
Faecal sludge management Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:21:03 +0000
Case studies for regulated / scheduled cleaning of septic tanks - by: aasimmansuri http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11069-case-studies-for-regulated--scheduled-cleaning-of-septic-tanks#11069 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11069-case-studies-for-regulated--scheduled-cleaning-of-septic-tanks#11069
We have recently started working on Fecal sludge management plan for few of the cities in India, where we are trying to explore regulated / scheduled cleaning of septic tanks.

It would be great if you could share some case studies of cities / countries where septic tanks are being cleaned on a regulated / scheduled basis.

Many Thanks

Regards,
Aasim]]>
Faecal sludge management Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:50:54 +0000
New video!! Innovation in Urban Sanitation: FaME and U-ACT research in Sub-Saharan Africa - by: LindaStrande http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11062-new-video-innovation-in-urban-sanitation-fame-and-u-act-research-in-sub-saharan-africa#11062 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/11062-new-video-innovation-in-urban-sanitation-fame-and-u-act-research-in-sub-saharan-africa#11062
In celebration of World Toilet Day we are launching our new video, Innovation in Urban Sanitation: FaME and U-ACT research in Sub-Saharan Africa.



Enjoy!]]>
Faecal sludge management Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:58:15 +0000
Re: Play with Faecal Sludge Trucks! - by: F H Mughal http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10961 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10961

F H Mughal]]>
Faecal sludge management Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:33:21 +0000
Re: Play with Faecal Sludge Trucks! - by: rkaupp http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10929 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10929
We may need a forum section for "Tales of shit" and other lighter touches...]]>
Faecal sludge management Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:13:40 +0000
Re: Play with Faecal Sludge Trucks! - by: Florian http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10914 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10914 gsmikhael wrote:
I just got a deck at the last SanCoP meeting in Leeds, they're great! The next person to sit next to me on a long flight to somewhere will learn a lot - or decide to move.


Glad you liked it! We still are well stocked, so you all can get and distribute them. Let us know if you want to order some (we charge shipping costs only)!

Cheers, Florian]]>
Faecal sludge management Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:28:46 +0000
Re: Play with Faecal Sludge Trucks! - by: gsmikhael http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10913 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10913
On a similarly light but less technical note (not sure where to put this Elisabeth, feel free to move), a generous sole from WSUP shared a poetic description of this potentially overlooked way of emptying pits:

In May 1974 a demolition expert, Derek Bates, described the following event on the BBC as one of his most memorable experiences.

I was approached by a large gentleman with moleskin trousers on with the crossed pockets leaning back on his pelvis. “Here, young fella,” he said, “I want a word with thee.” I said: “What’s your trouble, master?” (That’s how they are round our way). He said: “It’s our septic tank, I’ve had a very nasty letter from the council.”

It was about twice the size of this room and the top of it was like one of those horrible meringues gone wrong, with a six inch crust on it. It seemed to say: “Come any closer and I’ll have yer.” My God, it was my duty to destroy it. So we got the big 5 lb stick of explosive, tied them up at the ends of the cord and tossed one in. Plunk! It up ended, and a great green
bubble come up and winked at me. And we heard the most evil chuckle as the swine swallowed it. I’m sure it thought I was feeding it.

There were four and a half thousand tons of effluent: all of it got to go. We got all the ends of a bit of wire, lit the fuse and detonator. Then the man in moleskins said: “What about him down there? “ There’s a bloke down in the field in a bit of hedge, bruising with a blunt hook. I said, “He’ll have to shift, he’ll get the lot.” Twelve seconds later, four and a half thousand tons of effluent leapt into the air. It climbed into the sky and, at 300 feet it mushroomed out and a shaft of sunlight hit it. You could see all the colours of a starling’s wing, the greens and the golds and the brown and dark bottle green in it, a lot of pig muck, very sour smell, especially when it’s been in there for eighty years. Then it turned over like an avenging cumulus and he fled down the field, like Sodom and Gomorrah, very like, and his face went “ahhghh”! and he tried to run.

But you can’t run at 35 mph with clogs on, on wet porridge. He had only made four yards, and he was carrying 25 lb on his boots then. Visibly falling, and the second time he came up he got a face full of shite and a double hernia. The main flight went hissing on its way, then it went into a grey fog and the thing wriggled and writhed on the ground and then rose up like a phoenix arising from the ashes. The solids had mixed with the liquids and gone into a goo as he had a pair of multi-coloured gossamer wings...”
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Faecal sludge management Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:57:12 +0000
Re: Play with Faecal Sludge Trucks! - by: LindaStrande http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10858 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10858
I think in the card game they are called "faecal sludge trucks" because it works with the title and the context, but for more "academic" usage I would stick with "vacuum truck".]]>
Faecal sludge management Wed, 05 Nov 2014 17:18:12 +0000
Re: Solar Sanitation for Fecal Sludge Management (Sanivation - upcoming pilot in Kakuma refugee camp, Kenya) - by: joeturner http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/558-solar-sanitation-for-fecal-sludge-management-sanivation-upcoming-pilot-in-kakuma-refugee-camp-kenya?limit=12&start=12#10733 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/558-solar-sanitation-for-fecal-sludge-management-sanivation-upcoming-pilot-in-kakuma-refugee-camp-kenya?limit=12&start=12#10733
pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es500197h

The paper title is "Evaluation of Solid Fuel Char Briquettes from Human Waste"

The abstract says

The study determined the energy content and the elemental composition of chars pyrolyzed at 300, 450, and 750 °C. Fecal chars made at 300 °C were found to be similar in energy content to wood chars and bituminous coal, having a heating value of 25.6 ± 0.08 MJ/kg, while fecal chars made at 750 °C had an energy content of 13.8 ± 0.48 MJ/kg. The higher heating values of the studied chars were evaluated using their elemental composition and a published predictive model; results found good agreement between the measured and predicted values. Fecal chars made at low temperatures were briquetted with molasses/lime and starch binders. Briquettes made with 10% starch had an average impact resistance index of 79 and a higher heating value of 25 MJ/kg. These values are comparable to those of commercial charcoal briquettes, making fecal char briquettes a potential substitute that also contributes to the preservation of the environment.


I can't really work out from the diagram in the paper whether the idea is to generate electricity from the solar cell or somehow whether solar heating is being used, but I thought it might be interesting to highlight here.]]>
Faecal sludge management Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:14:33 +0000
Re: Play with Faecal Sludge Trucks! - by: Florian http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10722 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10722

muench wrote:
You called it a "faecal sludge truck" in your card game. Did that come about after long deliberations? I would be inclined to call it a "vacuum tanker".


Vacuum truck is the correct technical term for this type of truck.

But actually these trucks can pump other stuff than just feacal sludge, e.g. sewage, agricultural slurry, or industrial liquids/sludges.

The idea of our card game is to have a fun gadget to raise awareness for feacal sludge management and the emptying business. So it makes more sense to emphasise the fecal sludge bit, rather than the fact that the trucks work with vacuum pumps.

Faecal sludge truck also sounds cooler or a bit more wierd(=interesting) to outsiders than vacuum truck I guess.

The truth is, we didn't discuss much about the term, we just called it like that... ]]>
Faecal sludge management Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:15:22 +0000
Re: Play with Faecal Sludge Trucks! - by: christoph http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10691 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/53-faecal-sludge-management/8929-play-with-faecal-sludge-trucks#10691 correct term is vacuum truck. And the point is, the pump creates a vacuum to be be able to suck the material. Fecal sludge truck is not a correct wording - but very adequate for the game.
Christoph]]>
Faecal sludge management Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:20:05 +0000