SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication http://forum.susana.org/ Tue, 28 Mar 2017 10:08:44 +0000 Kunena 1.6 http://forum.susana.org/components/com_kunena/template/default/images/icons/rss.png SuSanA - Forum http://forum.susana.org/ en-gb Re: Research partners for technology and low cost solutions in Vietnam - by: cecile http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20902-research-partners-for-technology-and-low-cost-solutions-in-vietnam#20934 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20902-research-partners-for-technology-and-low-cost-solutions-in-vietnam#20934 I am conducting a similar research in rural areas in Cambodia for an ADB/ MRD project.
I will contact Hanh nguyen by email.
Thanks for this contact!
Best,
Cécile]]>
Faecal sludge management Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:04:13 +0000
Research partners for technology and low cost solutions in Vietnam - by: GeorgiaDavis http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20902-research-partners-for-technology-and-low-cost-solutions-in-vietnam#20902 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20902-research-partners-for-technology-and-low-cost-solutions-in-vietnam#20902 This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it ]]> Faecal sludge management Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:18:08 +0000 Re: FSM per capita cost for Nepal or South Asia (seeking information) - by: muench http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/17850-fsm-per-capita-cost-for-nepal-or-south-asia-faecal-sludge-treatment-costs-in-asia#20625 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/17850-fsm-per-capita-cost-for-nepal-or-south-asia-faecal-sludge-treatment-costs-in-asia#20625
You asked:
The model does not include the FSTP* for both system. Therefore I was thinking of making an assumption like costs of treating one cubic meter of faecal sludge ($/m^3 sludge).

Does anyone know a good assumption for Nepal, India, Bangladesh or somewhere in South Asia? Costs of treating sludge out of an ABR and out of a Septic Tank.

This seems like a pertinent question, and one for which we should by now have some guidance values. I take it you've already looked through those FSM toolboxes which I mentioned above and didn't find any cost figures?

I've also created this new sub-category to group these toolboxes together in one place on the forum:
forum.susana.org/component/kunena/277-fs...boxes-and-guidelines

Can the people who attend the FSM4 Conference in Chennai this week enlighten us if any of the presentations gave information on costs? Was it a big topic? Can anyone help Tobias with his question?

Regards,
Elisabeth

* FSTP = Faecal sludge treatment plant]]>
Faecal sludge management Fri, 24 Feb 2017 22:37:48 +0000
Re: Key Performance Indicators used for Fecal sludge Management project - by: thapkris http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20389-key-performance-indicators-used-for-fecal-sludge-management-project#20535 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20389-key-performance-indicators-used-for-fecal-sludge-management-project#20535
Thank you for your very helpful suggestions. These Key Performance Indicators are basically targeted to south east Asia and African region. I am trying to list down all of the indicators which can be helpful in this region to monitor performance.
Thus, we can say its more general than context specific.]]>
Faecal sludge management Tue, 21 Feb 2017 03:22:01 +0000
Re: Key Performance Indicators used for Fecal sludge Management project - by: canaday http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20389-key-performance-indicators-used-for-fecal-sludge-management-project#20478 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20389-key-performance-indicators-used-for-fecal-sludge-management-project#20478
Attached are some comments on your file. I hope you find these useful.

Please tell us more about the context of this work. What technologies are being applied? What city or region is being covered?

Best wishes,
Chris Canaday]]>
Faecal sludge management Fri, 17 Feb 2017 01:59:43 +0000
Re: Key Performance Indicators used for Fecal sludge Management project - by: thapkris http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20389-key-performance-indicators-used-for-fecal-sludge-management-project#20462 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20389-key-performance-indicators-used-for-fecal-sludge-management-project#20462
Thanks a lot for your very helpful suggestions. I am Researcher working in field of fecal sludge Management. Basically, I am looking at monitoring part of FSM Project trying to find relevant indicator for FSM Project.
Please find the attachment for the doc version for the table.I am trying to find more indicators in economic section.



Best Regards,
Kristina Thapa]]>
Faecal sludge management Thu, 16 Feb 2017 02:11:44 +0000
Re: Key Performance Indicators used for Fecal sludge Management project - by: canaday http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20389-key-performance-indicators-used-for-fecal-sludge-management-project#20413 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20389-key-performance-indicators-used-for-fecal-sludge-management-project#20413
Welcome to the Forum. Please tell us more about yourself and your work.

I would suggest adding the following:
--Economic value of the final products, combining product quantity and quality that are already mentioned.
--Profit or loss of the overall operation.
--Number of complaints about smell or other inconveniences.
--Estimated amount of greenhouse gases produced.
--Quantity, quality and destination of final effluent.


I would also suggest that all indicators be numerical and quantifiable, for example:
--Number of public emptiers, instead of Public emptiers.
--Number of households ...
--Number of sites ...

Why are (national?) GDP and Inflation included?

Why not put "Manpower costs" instead of "Wages index"?

If you post a DOC version of the table (or just paste it into a post), I could make more detailed edits.

(I would like to remind everyone that the corrected Spanish translation that I did of the FSM book is available at the bottom of the following page:
www.eawag.ch/en/department/sandec/public...management-fsm-book/
while the Unesco-IHE site still offers the uncorrected version.)

Good luck with your project.

Best wishes,
Chris Canaday]]>
Faecal sludge management Fri, 10 Feb 2017 11:32:51 +0000
Key Performance Indicators used for Fecal sludge Management project - by: thapkris http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20389-key-performance-indicators-used-for-fecal-sludge-management-project#20389 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/20389-key-performance-indicators-used-for-fecal-sludge-management-project#20389
I was looking for suggestions for finding more Key Performance Indicators used in Fecal Sludge Management project.
Firstly, I have tried to list down some of the key Performance indicators from my side. As listed in table these indicators are along the Fecal Sludge Management Service chain.



It would be great if you can provide suggestions for adding more indicators in each of the sections in table above.

Sincerely,
Kristina Thapa
Research Associate]]>
Faecal sludge management Thu, 09 Feb 2017 07:05:50 +0000
Re: Criteria to assess the safety, sustainability and functionality of the feacal sludge management practice at household level - by: wilfried http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/19130-criteria-to-assess-the-safety-sustainability-and-functionality-of-the-feacal-sludge-management-practice-at-household-level-cameroon#20086 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/19130-criteria-to-assess-the-safety-sustainability-and-functionality-of-the-feacal-sludge-management-practice-at-household-level-cameroon#20086
First of all, I would like to wish you a prosperous year 2017!
I am very sorry for the late reply to your email.

I found the SusanA platform to be a very good place where people usually share their research projects and research ideas especially the WASH-related topics.

As I mentioned communication I posted on the platform (the 23th of September 2016),I would like to know if there is any criteria to assess the safety, sustainability and functionality of on-site sanitation systems in used at household levels of a tropical urban area.

I didn't received responses, but I continue doing internet check and come out helpful informations:
1- I see a very good publication of Jenkins et al. (2014):
Jenkins M.W., Cumming O., Scott B., Cairncross S., 2014. Beyond “improved” towards “safe and sustainable” urban sanitation: assessing the design, management and functionality of sanitation in poor communities of Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. J. Water Sanit. Hyg. Dev. 4, 131. doi:10.2166/washdev.2013.180;
2- I read a recently published book of Stockholm Environmental Institute (SEI)- UN Environment Programme Global Programme of Action for the Protection of the Marine Environment from Land Based Activities (SEI-UNEP-2016-SanWWM&Sustainability), FROM WASTE DISPOSAL TO RESOURCE RECOVERY.

I will very glad if you share with me other additional relevant literature.
Once more thank you very much for recall.

Best regards

Wilfried Letah, Cameroon]]>
Faecal sludge management Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:53:12 +0000
Re: FSM per capita cost for Nepal or South Asia (seeking information) - by: tokraft http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/17850-fsm-per-capita-cost-for-nepal-or-south-asia-faecal-sludge-treatment-costs-in-asia#19912 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/17850-fsm-per-capita-cost-for-nepal-or-south-asia-faecal-sludge-treatment-costs-in-asia#19912
I am doing a net present value analysis and an annuity analysis of onsite and DEWATS technologies for a town in Nepal. I developed a model which designs and calculates construction costs of an onsite system with a septic tank and a soak pit as well as a DEWATS (Settler, ABR, Wetland) system which is connected to a simplified sewer system which drains a neighborhood. The model uses the material and labour rates of the actual town.
So I want to compare the two systems on household costs in form of NPV and Annuity. So the two systems do not have the same elimination efficiencies and produce sludge of different qualities which makes it not easy to compare them.

The model does not include the FSTP for both system. Therefore I was thinking of making an assumption like costs of treating one cubic meter of faecal sludge ($/m^3 sludge).

Does anyone know a good assumption for Nepal, India, Bangladesh or somewhere in South Asia? Costs of treating sludge out of an ABR and out of a Septic Tank.

Thanks for any help.
Best regards

Tobias]]>
Faecal sludge management Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:25:42 +0000
Re: Criteria to assess the safety, sustainability and functionality of the feacal sludge management practice at household level - by: muench http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/19130-criteria-to-assess-the-safety-sustainability-and-functionality-of-the-feacal-sludge-management-practice-at-household-level-cameroon#19592 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/19130-criteria-to-assess-the-safety-sustainability-and-functionality-of-the-feacal-sludge-management-practice-at-household-level-cameroon#19592 )

I like how you use the Forum to get inputs to your PhD research. In order to help you better, can you please clarify your question?
What kind of criteria do you mean? If you mean sustainability criteria, these have been discussed in various places on the forum (use the search field at the top right to find previous threads containing "sustainability criteria").
If it's something else then please clarify?

Regards,
Elisabeth]]>
Faecal sludge management Thu, 17 Nov 2016 22:04:42 +0000
Advice on SFDs (shit flow diagrams) and informal sanitation chain in informal settlements (e.g. Nairobi, Kenya and elsewhere) - by: leftyrights http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/19536-advice-on-sfds-shit-flow-diagrams-and-informal-sanitation-chain-in-informal-settlements-eg-nairobi-kenya-and-elsewhere#19536 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/19536-advice-on-sfds-shit-flow-diagrams-and-informal-sanitation-chain-in-informal-settlements-eg-nairobi-kenya-and-elsewhere#19536
I'm exploring where and how fecal waste flows in Nairobi's informal settlements, comparing 2 slums to capture some variations that may be missed in past SFDs (e.g., areas differing in their use of pit latrines, access to sewers, public toilets, or Sanergy's Fresh Life Toilets, and how disposal patterns vary during rainy season, at night etc.). I'm also interested in maintenance of toilets, with some gendered consideration of female/male residents who strive to keep these facilities clean. My aim is to reveal some of the spatial variations and informal practices that are often obscured SFDs, and I hope to map & explore these flows with local stakeholders like latrine-emptiers, community leaders, public toilet caretakers, etc. I plan to work with Kenya's slum-dweller federation, Muungano wa Wanavijiji, to build on their existing maps of toilets in these areas. In turn, I hope to generate some fine-grained information that may support future advocacy and behavior-change interventions.

If possible, can you recommend any publications, contacts, or projects that may be relevant? Here are some that I'm already aware of:
-SaniPath's recent work, including SuSanA videos from the 2016 SFD meeting in Stockholm
-the latest FSM work from WSP, which include SFDs with more detailed consideration of informal settlements' flows in Lima, Dhaka, etc.
-UBSUP in Kenya
-WSUP's project with emptiers in Kibera
-studies of 'modernized mixtures' in East African sanitation (by Letema, van Vliet etc.)
-work in Uganda on gender and sanitation maintenance (e.g. Kwiringira, J., et al. (2014). Gender variations in access, choice to use and cleaning of shared latrines; experiences from Kampala Slums, Uganda. BMC Public Health, 14(1), 1.).

If you know of other publications or contacts I could draw upon, I'd be very grateful. I have limited resources so I won't be able to conduct household surveys, unfortunately. But I'd appreciate any tips about how to sharpen the study, complement existing work, or make it more useful to practitioners or policymakers.

Thank you and all the best!
Alice
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Faecal sludge management Tue, 08 Nov 2016 13:58:54 +0000
Re: Why FSM gets prioritised - by: F H Mughal http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/19412-why-fsm-needs-to-be-prioritised-over-effluent-and-greywater-question-from-india#19446 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/19412-why-fsm-needs-to-be-prioritised-over-effluent-and-greywater-question-from-india#19446
Please have a look at 2 blogs at these links, and one attachment. You will enjoy reading these blogs and the attached publication:

blogs.worldbank.org/water/fecal-sludge-m...developed-tools-help

blogs.worldbank.org/water/5-lessons-manage-fecal-sludge-better

Regards,

F H Mughal]]>
Faecal sludge management Sun, 30 Oct 2016 06:09:28 +0000
Re: Why FSM gets prioritised - by: paresh http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/19412-why-fsm-needs-to-be-prioritised-over-effluent-and-greywater-question-from-india#19435 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/19412-why-fsm-needs-to-be-prioritised-over-effluent-and-greywater-question-from-india#19435 Faecal sludge management Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:05:56 +0000 Re: Why FSM gets prioritised - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/19412-why-fsm-needs-to-be-prioritised-over-effluent-and-greywater-question-from-india#19427 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/53-faecal-sludge-management/19412-why-fsm-needs-to-be-prioritised-over-effluent-and-greywater-question-from-india#19427 paresh wrote:

I am aware that more people are connected to on-site systems and they are looked as stop-gap arrangement while engineers and planners prefer sewerage system.

Realistically speaking on-site sanitation will stay the defacto standard in most places for the foreseeable future, therefore the need for FSM. But my impression is also that many engineers only prefer sewerage systems because that's what they learned in university, and often they also don't consider the necessary construction of a large sewerage treatment plant to be "part of the deal"...

paresh wrote:

I am currently doing the task but haven't found anything on why FSM needs to be prioritised over effluent and greywater. In some places, the septic tanks are over sized and hence not emptied for many years. The question which arises is what is the problem if septage remains in tank for long duration besides the fact that it starts hardening thereby reducing effective size of the tank.

Besides that it is a myth that many tanks are oversized (people don't sufficiently consider the necessary hydraulic buffer and that tanks are already technically full when the sludge & scum occupies some 2/3 of the available volume), you need to stop thinking of individual tanks and see it as a city wide problem. Then there is always quite a lot of tanks that would benefit from emptying. And of course if you want to avoid sludge hardening, emptying more often is also a good soluntion.


paresh wrote:

One is trying to understand why FS which needs to be treated only when tanks are emptied (this is not frequent) is getting attention while effluent from septic tank and grey water which is a daily outcome is neglected, is it that the concentration of pathogens is higher or any other reason?? . This is also going to be an obvious question from jurors who may not be experts in the field.


Regarding the frequency see comment about city wide scale above. Grey-water is basically not a major issue pollution wise as for most households it is a low-strength, low volume, few health issues problem.
For septic-tank effluents: The problem starts in the tank, the need to treat the sludge is actually a secondary result of the necessary emptying. Assuming a reasonably well constructed multi-chamber septic-tank additional secondary effluent treatment is only necessary in densely settled areas (with shallow ground water abstraction) or for environmental reasons to reduce the nitrogen/phosphorus pollution load.
However as soon as the tank is not emptied early enough (=FSM) this turns around and then (and only then) the effluents become a real pollution problem. And in addition any secondary effluent treatment system will be quickly overloaded and damaged.]]>
Faecal sludge management Thu, 27 Oct 2016 06:57:46 +0000