SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication Sun, 04 Dec 2016 14:12:06 +0000 Kunena 1.6 SuSanA - Forum en-gb MDGs to SDGs – What is the Difference and What Do We Do Differently? - by: F H Mughal
MDGs to SDGs – What is the Difference and What Do We Do Differently?

Dear Ms. Doreen,

Ms.Kathleen Peters (Kathleen “Kat” Peters, Research Administrative Assistant | Hubert Department of Global Health, WASH Certificate Coordinator, Center for Global Safe WASH, Rollins School of Public Health | Emory University, Atlants, GA) has informed of a lecture on 9 Nov 2016, on the above topic. Please see the attachment.

Will it be possible for you to get the transcript of the lecture, and post it on this forum?


F H Mughal]]>
Miscellaneous - any other topic Sun, 30 Oct 2016 06:28:49 +0000
Trans Africa Pipeline ("TAP") - an 8800km water pipeline across the Sahel region of Africa - by: Templeton More information may be found at and included on our web site is a short 2 minute video about our plans. TAP needs volunteers in the countries of the proposed pipeline route. If you are interested please contact us at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it

Thank you for considering this.]]>
Miscellaneous - any other topic Thu, 13 Oct 2016 16:43:54 +0000
Skeletal Fluorosis, What aggravates it and what makes fluoride in the water that you drink to go crazy in your body and lead to bone deformity? - by: VikasR Note by moderator: The following is a copy from this blog post:


What makes fluoride play around in your body and aggravate? Does a standardized, universal bench mark of 1.5 ppm of fluoride per liter in water hold good? are there other reasons that need to be factored in?

Questions in your mind, yes?

Ok, lets start things off; The reason for Fluorosis is High levels of fluoride in drinking water supplies and in food grown in endemic areas. the more fluoride there is in the water and food you consume the more severe is your fluorosis, as simple as that.

But interestingly; although there is a standard defined by the World Health Organisation (WHO), which has come up with a universally accepted theory that any fluoride in water upto 1.5 ppm per day per liter is safe to have, The truth is that there cannot be a fixed rule that applies randomly to all. The body mass, the body built, your being a child or adult and other factors have a huge role in determining how much of an effect fluoride can have on you if you happen to be in a endemic area.

Also; in a fluoride affected area, Tropical or extreme hot weather and some hard manual labor can make you feel thirstier, so your body’s water requirement grows and you’d be drinking more water. A lot more fluoride, therefore, which is beyond what’s reasonable; no matter what the limit therefore enters your body.

If your nutrition is poor; which in “fluorosis avoiding terms” essentially means that your food is deficient in reasonable calcium, magnesium and vitamin C which gives you the wherewithal in countering fluorosis by making fluoride flush out; you could end up having really bad skeletal fluorosis, if you keep drinking contaminated water.

Magnesium has a peculiar relationship with fluoride and its optimum intake helps in elimination of fluoride from the body. Vitamin C as well is beneficial in some way in reducing fluoride toxicity.

Fluorosis which earlier used to take much more time to manifest itself in people and very rarely in children, has for the past decade or so started showing up much quicker now. even in small children who are showing symptoms, which was never before the case.

The deterioration in food habits,i.e. foods people that now have being low in nutritional value, is what is leading these things to happen.

A Renal or kidney disease can also aggravate your fluorosis by increased deposition of fluoride in the bones. A diseased kidney cannot handle fluoride excretion from the body, and hence you’d find an increased deposition taking place in bones.

After all; where else can the excess fluoride go if it is unable to find it’s way out of the body?

to sum it up briefly; its about you taking the right kind of food and the capacity it gives you to flush toxins such as fluoride out of your body, along with switching to safe water]]>
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Re: acuaponia - by: AquaVerde]]> Miscellaneous - any other topic Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:08:21 +0000 Re: acuaponia - by: JKMakowka
If you meant "hydroponics", as a pure plant based recirculation system, then maybe, but the strength of the waste water would need to be really thin and you could only produce non-food crops to avoid contamination.

It would also not "sanitize" the water as that would mean removal of pathogens. It would probably result in some reduction of pathogens, but mainly it would be a way to reduce the nutrient content before discharge.

Of course you could call an artificial wetland a very simple hydroponics system for non-food plants... but I guess this is not what you had in mind ]]>
Miscellaneous - any other topic Thu, 09 Jun 2016 10:31:28 +0000
Could aquaponics be a method of sanitization of water? - by: DanSevilla I have a question:

Could aquaponics be a method of sanitization of water?

i will thank you so much ]]>
Miscellaneous - any other topic Thu, 09 Jun 2016 04:15:01 +0000
Re: Two researchers made nearly every scientific paper ever published available for free to anyone, anywhere in the world - by: muench

Generally, I think the shift from "user pays" to "author pays" to provide access to papers is gradually taking place which is good. More and more of the more recent papers have the "author pays" model and are therefore not behind a paywall. See e.g. the paper by Moritz and colleagues here (Sandec seems to have adopted a policy on this, as I see their more recent papers tend to be free access):

I agree with you that free access (or even better: open access) * would be good to have. I've realised the importance of it also through my Wikipedia editing work where we provide sources for all statements and if these sources are open access then this is easier for the Wikipedia editor and also easier for the Wikipedia reader.


* If anyone is wondering "what's the difference between free access and open access?" then please read here:]]>
Miscellaneous - any other topic Thu, 12 May 2016 12:12:32 +0000
Re: Two researchers made nearly every scientific paper ever published available for free to anyone, anywhere in the world - by: AquaVerde
Thanks for putting it in the right boxes.

Let me answer just with an actual example about susana's very point of interest:
Why Do Water and Sanitation Systems for the Poor Still Fail? Policy Analysis in Economically Advanced Developing Countries

The results of an independent evaluation of 60 case studies of water and sanitation infrastructure projects in India, Mexico, and South Africa, most of them implemented since 2000, demonstrate an ongoing problem of failing infrastructure even in economically advanced developing countries. This paper presents a meta-analysis of those project case study results and analyses whether the design of existing policies or other factors contribute to failures. It concludes that the observed failures are due to well-known reasons and recommends how the implementation of the Dublin–Rio Principles can be improved. (They were introduced twenty years ago to avoid such failures by means of more sustainable planning.)

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Miscellaneous - any other topic Thu, 12 May 2016 08:57:57 +0000
Re: Two researchers made nearly every scientific paper ever published available for free to anyone, anywhere in the world - by: muench
Let's not mix up too many topics in this thread. I thought this thread was about how to get hold of academic journal papers that are behind a paywall.

If you want to discuss in more general terms whether such scientific papers are useful for WASH practitioners then that's a different topic (and applies to any sort of research, not just WASH); it could go into a new thread.

If you want to discuss in particular research that the Gates Foundation is funding then I would say this also belongs in a separate thread. We've discussed it a few times before e.g. you could contribute to this thread:
also there is this earlier one here:

Please keep in mind that the Gates Foundation funds much more than just high-tech toilets, they also fund lots of low-tech stuff and also no-tech stuff, i.e. behaviour change and plenty of policy and evidence projects (but the mainstream media in the global North loves to pick up on the high-tech toilet news!). The project database gives a good overview of all their WASH projects:
So please do not equate Gates funded projects in WASH with just "plasma toilets".

Finally, if you want to know more about the open access policy of the Gates Foundation for research that they fund please see here (which I find pretty progressive; I haven't seen many other funders doing the same):

I hope this helps to clarify things.

Meanwhile, I would like to get back to the original topic and ask the other forum users if they use the mentioned websites to get hold of articles that are behind paywalls? Are you finding them useful?

Miscellaneous - any other topic Wed, 11 May 2016 09:02:42 +0000
Re: Two researchers made nearly every scientific paper ever published available for free to anyone, anywhere in the world - by: AquaVerde
I could go on and on about illegal killings via drones and so on to make you and my self depressive, but this is not the topic.

I could go with you if the authors of scientific papers will get a good share or a share at all of Elsevier's (or others) subscription fees and all researchers in this world would have equal access too.
The Academic Publishing Scandal:

In this regard, I wonder about the useful PRACTICAL research outcomes of of "our" (susana's) field of interests outside of universities ivory towers. Where to get "Open Access" and related "Open Design" of it. I contacted this foundation on the subject, but had no reply at all.

Millions spent for what? For a plasma-toilet and so on?

Miscellaneous - any other topic Mon, 09 May 2016 08:07:52 +0000
Re: Two researchers made nearly every scientific paper ever published available for free to anyone, anywhere in the world - by: muench
I quite like the "author pays" model for open access. This means the author pays a fee to the journal (like to Elsevier) and then all potential readers can download the article free of charge. Rather than the previous model of "reader pays". This is based on the hyphothesis that (most) authors may have more financial means than (most) readers - especially if the authors re in the global North and the readers are in the global South.

Another option is Research Gate, you can also get papers from there, e.g. see this link:

I think (but am not totally sure) that papers are made available there for free, but one has to login first (getting an account is for free though). I joined Research Gate a little while ago but am still unsure what to make of it. Perhaps other users of Research Gate could explain to us some pros and cons of Research Gate (

Miscellaneous - any other topic Mon, 09 May 2016 07:23:18 +0000
Two researchers made nearly every scientific paper ever published available for free to anyone, anywhere in the world - by: AquaVerde
- Alexandra Elbakyan, a researcher from Kazakhstan, created Sci-Hub 2011

While Alexandra later came to find Aaron’s writings inspiring and is working on translating them to Russian, she maintains her greatest inspiration was the countless “inspired people” all around the world who share knowledge in online communities based on their shared belief that knowledge should be free.

- Aaron Swartz from USA (1986 – 2013)

Miscellaneous - any other topic Sun, 08 May 2016 06:03:09 +0000
Catastrophic and Miserable Water Situation in the Gaza Strip, Occupied Palestine - by: hilmisalem Miscellaneous - any other topic Sun, 03 Apr 2016 13:41:05 +0000 Re: Using Twitter to increase the impact of your work, as a research tool, to make connections and to map out our network? - by: muench
Thanks a lot for your description of some key elements on twitter. I use twitter and I like it but I am quite a novice compared to you: I have e.g. not yet understood the use of lists and tweet deck. Perhaps in one of the upcoming SuSanA webinars you could give a demonstration?

Do you think it's worthwhile creating a list of twitter accounts of SuSanA partner organizations? Would that achieve anything? (I still don't fully grasp the concept of lists).

The network analysis of twitter followers (i.e. who follows whom) that Arno mentions above also leaves me puzzled. Not sure what that would really tell us.

My twitter name is @EvMuench and I follow 132 people, and have just over 500 followers. I would like to follow more people/organisations but I find that this ends up in information overload, particularly if people do many tweets per day. I still haven't figured out a way of handling that (I usually end up unfollowing those very frequent tweeters because I find it too much) - how could lists help me with that?

Some thoughts on how I use twitter:
  • I generally enjoy following persons more than organizations. I like it when people voice personal opinions, not just general things about WASH (and if they sometimes (not often, just occasionally) even throw in something unrelated, e.g. something about terrorism and refugees).
  • I find it useful to follow some people from outside the sector as they might give me new ideas, e.g. I follow some who work in the area of intestinal worms and health, like these:
    • SCI, Schisto Control @sci_ntds (The Schistosomiasis Control Initiative (SCI) at Imperial College London, is an NGO working to eliminate 4 neglected tropical diseases (NTDs) from Africa)
    • ChildrenWithoutWorms @CWWDirector Children Without Worms supports comprehensive control of intestinal worms. Follow us for news about soil-transmitted helminthiasis and the STH Coalition!
    • Wiki Project Med @WikiProjectMed Sharing the sum of all medical knowledge with every human being on the planet in the language of their choice. We edit #Wikipedia. #FOAMed #meded
  • I use my own tweets to highlight interesting things going on on the forum, hoping to direct people to using the forum.
  • I think most tweets should have a website link where people can find more information (and of course a photo is always a great eye catcher, although I am usually too lazy to insert one).
  • I find tweets from conferences pretty useful (using the hashtag of the conference), e.g. when I am at a conference, I might follow the tweets from a parallel session and get an impression of what's being discussed there.
  • I often see interesting requests for proposals, jobs or new papers and publications first advertised on twitter, before I see them also somewhere else.

The other day Sue Desmond-Hellmann, the CEO of the Gates Foundation, made a tweet about the importance of open access; I replied to the tweet by saying "18 March: @SueDHellmann I am so impressed with BMGF's open access policy for #sanitation projects that it funds! Thank you. ". A short while later, I got a notification that she "liked" my tweet and that really made my day!! Most likely she has assistants who manage her twitter account for her, or who help her, but still, I was quite chuffed. It makes me feel like I can be in contact with someone really high up. If she was ever to re-tweet something I had tweeted, that would be awesome. (getting someone who has a vast number of followers to retweet you is a real success)

I would be curious to hear how other SuSanA members use twitter for their work? Or if they don't use it, why not? (I only started using it three years ago; before that I used to think it was totally weird and I didn't understand the tweets which were full of these symbols: # @ ... Then Juergen Eichholz gave us a demo at GIZ and it got me curious; later on Arno Rosemarin explained to me how it's used at SEI and then I decided to give it a go).

Miscellaneous - any other topic Fri, 25 Mar 2016 12:17:07 +0000
Re: Using Twitter to increase the impact of your work, as a research tool, to make connections and to map out our network? - by: Carol McCreary
People use Twitter in different ways. Some seek to influence and are successful. Other Tweeters fail to influence. Still others simply abandon use, which accounts for the large number of inactive Twitter accounts. Other may simply use Twitter as an aide-memoire, using the 140 characters to annotate what may later become a bibliographic reference.

Among the organizations on the list of water and sanitation influencers Arno mentions are two individuals who use Twitter in very different ways: Alexander Verbeek and Catarina de Albuquerque. @CatarinadeAlbuq is a restrained Tweeter whose Tweets on sanitation and human rights - particularly when she was the UN Special Rapporteur - have influenced my colleagues and me. @Alex_Verbeek is a plain language popularizer of science relating to the energy-food-water complex who follows over 50K Tweeters and is followed by more than 87K. Broadly educational.

Twitter itself has changed. The addition of images and the recent replacement of stars with hearts annoys many of us. Although it's been dumbed down a bit on the surface, Twitter has remained quite professional. It's not a love fest.

For me, Twitter remains a tool for research tool rather than a tool for outreach. I find it especially useful for identifying breaking science writing and new reports in several of my areas of interest. I also use it to applaud the few journalists who cover toilet and sewer issues in North America. Twitter has help establish some very good and trusting relationships. Here are some elements I focus on.

1. Lists. A list is a curated group of Twitter users and a great way to organize your interests. With lists there is little need to follow lots of people or to be followed. Lists can be as narrow or broad as one likes. And they can be public or private. Some lists you create and manage yourself. If they are public others may subscribe to them. You may be made a member of lists created by others. And you may subscribe to lists created by others. For example @PortlandPHLUSH has a public list called WWTPs for "Wastewater treatment plants that Tweet to the public." As we're looking into the energy use, costs and carbon footprints of WWTPs I’ll check this list and make inquiries with either my own public tweets (I'm @Baggywrinkles)or, if possible, direct messages. By the way, should a list you follow include accounts you follow, incoming tweets appear only once.

Here is more about lists. and an important reminder. Lists are used for reading Tweets only. You cannot send or direct a Tweet to members of a list, for only those list members to see.

2. Tweet Deck. TweetDeck by Twitter bills itself as "The most powerful Twitter tool for real-time tracking, organizing, and engagement." It allows you to line up columns on your screen. Columns can be lists (your own or those of others), individual Twitter account, hashtags, or search words.

3. Profiles. Profiles are mini bios. At a glance they give some idea of why a person is on Twitter, how focussed they are on issues of mutual interest. People now self identify with everything from organization and personal websites to hash tags and emojis.

Following individuals brings their attention to your profile and tweets. Follow back those with whom you might want to communicate briefly and privately using direct messages. This can help keep email out of your box and the DMs can remain always available and easy to locate in a Messages column on Tweet Deck.

5. Blocking Tweeters. This is not something you use much because Twitter is quite civil. But occasionally you're followed by someone selling something or who just seems a little sketchy. Nothing is easier than blocking them.

I hope others will chime in on how they use Twitter and share experiences.

Miscellaneous - any other topic Tue, 01 Mar 2016 16:56:55 +0000