SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication http://forum.susana.org/ Wed, 16 Apr 2014 21:59:33 +0000 Kunena 1.6 http://forum.susana.org/components/com_kunena/template/default/images/icons/rss.png SuSanA - Forum http://forum.susana.org/ en-gb Re: Can an ABR be done as a trench in clay with plastic sheets as baffles? - by: AquaVerde http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#8021 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#8021 www.susana.org/lang-en/library?view=ccbk...p;type=2&id=1933

This book provides basic knowledge about the technology to non-technical project managers in order to enable them to adapt the technology locally.
The book wants also to help the technical specialist to understand where technical simplification is required in order to disseminate the technology in its typical decentralised context - and provides tables for dimensioning of treatment plants on the computer.
Also, the book is designed to assist senior development planners who need to understand the specifics of decentralised wastewater treatment technology sufficiently in order to select or approve appropriate strategies for its dissemination.

NOTE: This 1998 publication recommends for ABRs a maximum upflow velocity of 2 m/h, which is not recommended anymore by BORDA, the new value is max. 1 m/h (see page 80, first sentence, third line).

in short for an "improved septic tank":
- min. 1,5 h! HRT in Settler in front of ABR
- min. 4 cambers in ABR
- min. 3 d HRT in ABR
- max. 0,6 m/h (BORDA: vABR max. 1 m/h!) upstream velocity v in ABR-camber

May I suggest, have longer HRT's and provide just one unit for each house. You may construct one unit first and making your own experiences and improve from there your second unit. Just provide a Y-junction in your pipework for a possible parallel ABR. In my experiences, non permanent used parts of a sanitation system gets easily neglected (forgotten) long after you are gone. Please calculate very-very conservative the ABR size and secondary treatment CW even so as it is your first ABR you doing by your self. In your first ABR project do not go for -40% reduction of CW space. In GTZ/GIZ CW-review it is recommended -40% if ABR is doing the pre-treatment, but missing independent experiences made by well known scientific organizations.

"emergency" alternative to Tuf & Tite "Party-Filter": (second best)
Septic Tank Bristle Filter

You may "construct" your own home-made "Party-Filter"...

Do not use wood as ABR cover, I see danger for children long time after you left construction side.

To where is grey-water and kitchen-water going to?

All the Best
Detlef]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:06:49 +0000
Re: Can an ABR be done as a trench in clay with plastic sheets as baffles? - by: canaday http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#8020 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#8020
I have been reading the EAWAG Compendium of Systems and Technologies for Sanitation (Spanish Edition). Are there other online texts I should see?

My goal for the ABR is obviously to give treatment, but especially to eliminate the suspended solids before the water goes to the Vegetated Sand Filter. So I want to apply the ABR as a very efficient settling tank, with its several slow up-flow chambers.

Standard flush toilets have been installed that discharge 6 liters per flush. Allowing for 3 flushes per person per day, 6 liters x 3 flushes = 18 liters, rounding up to 20. 20 persons x 20 liters = 400 liters per day for the one cabin. So the volume of the ABR should be 3 times this for allow for 3 days of detention, thus 1.2 m3. Taking into account that the porosity of sand is somewhere around one-third, the volume of the Vegetated Sand Filter should be at least 1.2 x 3 = 3.6 m3. Any comments or corrections on my calculations? (The staff needs to know to not flush and flush and flush during cleaning, and to not use toxic chemicals.)

Detlef, I do not understand why you say that fresh sludge would never have to be scooped out. Sludge does build up and eventually needs to be taken out ... and would only be as old as the last flush. This is not a huge volume, so there would be no problem in making two of each and alternating the use, in the same way as the two-chambered UDDTs that the community has been managing for 11 years.

I am thinking of getting inoculum from the bottom of a local lake or river.

The "Party Filter"
www.tuf-tite.com/ef4filter.html
seems great, but is not likely available here in Ecuador. I cannot quite see how it works, but is there a home-made alternative? How would a roll of plastic mesh do? (This could be pulled out and scrubbed with a brush periodically.)

Krischan, that Tung Oil sounds great, but I have never seen it in Ecuador. A little bit of wood would not be the end of the world, but most woods would rot in the water and those that do not likely come from very, very old trees. Sometimes there is the resistant heartwood of trees that have fallen in the forest decades ago; maybe we can find some of this.

My preferred plan is still to cut the baffles from an old (or new) water tank.

The roof might likely be wooden planks preserved with used motor oil.

Thanks for your help.

Best wishes,
Chris Canaday

We will make sure to keep rainwater runoff out.]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:51:29 +0000
Re: Can an ABR be done as a trench in clay with plastic sheets as baffles? - by: AquaVerde http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#8015 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#8015
As already mentioned keep rain/storm water away from any ABR.

Your idea to use ferrocement as a roof is a very good one, do not forget to have an epoxy coating from inside. In general you could do onside the whole ABR from ferrocement, using the clay wall and bottom of trench as permanent formwork, even you could add to this camber walls and hanging baffles, or in a combination with sturdy hard plastic for camber walls and baffles. With ferrocement you could be very flexible.

I do not understand your plan for alternating use of two ABR's on each side, as you should never scoop fresh sludge out of ABR and visitors aren't permanent. There is no need to scoop fresh sludge out of ABR's. Or maybe I do not understand your intentions very well

Which ABR-compendium do you use?

All the Best
Detlef]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Fri, 28 Mar 2014 08:42:22 +0000
Re: Can an ABR be done as a trench in clay with plastic sheets as baffles? - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#8014 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#8014
@Chris: Ok I see, that sounds a lot less "up-market" than I originally thought. A simple treatment pond is not an option? If it is used only sporadically an ABR might not work so well.

Is using some wood really that problematic? I think if you bring some surface treatment (maybe something like tung-oil?) any wood will last sufficiently long.

Your comment about old barrels also made me think that simple instructions for building an ABR out of old barrels (maybe even wood barrels?) could be something quite neat. Obviously you would need quite a lot of them, but as Detlef has mentioned, a larger first tank should be sufficient for some hydraulic buffer.]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Fri, 28 Mar 2014 06:07:43 +0000
Re: Can an ABR be done as a trench in clay with plastic sheets as baffles? - by: canaday http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#8013 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#8013
Thank you for your thoughtful and timely responses.

Rocks are hard to find at this site and mostly far away or deep in the ground.

My current thoughts are to:
1) Line the trench with rice sack material (which is also sold by the meter) to prevent slumping and clay getting into the water.
2) To try to find a broken plastic water tank or barrel (or potentially buy a new one) and cut pieces of it to form the baffles. I nonetheless still think that the rice sack cloth would work, and its propylene is reportedly very resistant to the acids that will form in the wastewater (and is mostly degraded by solar UV, which it would not receive). My Achuar counterpart's inclination is to make the baffles with planks from the hardest local wood, which involves deforestation and would not be feasible in other places.
3) I am not sure what to do the roof in. Maybe sections of ferrocement or wooden planks (which would not be rotting in the soil). Rain runoff would be kept out by making the edges higher with the excavated soil.
4) I am not planning to do anything with the biogas, especially since visitation by tourists would likely be fairly sporatic.
5) I am still thinking of potentially building two ABRs at each site, for alternating use, so that the community members would not have to scoop fresh sludge out. Maybe I need to make a gulper. Would alternation be bad for the microbiology of this?

Thanks for your help. More info soon.

Best wishes,
Chris Canaday]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Fri, 28 Mar 2014 04:29:23 +0000
Re: Can an ABR be done as a trench in clay with plastic sheets as baffles? - by: Marijn Zandee http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#8012 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#8012
Chris,

I really like your thinking, some other things that come to mind:

-What will you use as a "roof", I think the most likely mode of failure of the pits would be water running in from the top eroding the walls.
-Are there local stones you can use to line the walls of the pit? You could just use clay as mortar between them. This would also give you a good anchoring point for the baffle walls.
-To make the baffle walls, I would also go for something more rigid than just rice sacks. Is there some sort local skill in making mats that are woven out of bamboo or tree branches that you can use to make some baffle walls that you make water tight with rice sacks?
- What materials and techniques did they use for the cabins? Can you use something similar to make the baffle walls and roof?

Regards

Marijn]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Fri, 28 Mar 2014 02:40:40 +0000
Re: Can an ABR be done as a trench in clay with plastic sheets as baffles? - by: AquaVerde http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#7994 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#7994
Why not, if not

Do you use the biogas? I guess not.

Maybe for the hanging baffles and standing walls you might be better off with sturdy hard plastic. As the ABR "function" by just a small slop 5-10 cm between ABR inlet and outlet, you would have pressure by sewage and sludge between the baffles and walls. This pressure generates the needed up-flow velocity. Have a settler in front of ABR! Design 4 ABR-cambers (the spaces between the hanging baffles and standing walls) for the peak flow and have an up-flow velocity from approx. 0,6 m/h (not 1 m/h) and Hydraulic Retention Time (HRT) minimum 3 days to stay saver with your design. Keep the first camber larger to give more time for first stage, the hydrolysis (maybe 2x larger). To start the digesting process faster, put anaerobic sludge from other wwtp's on the ground of each camber. If not, it takes approx. 3 months for the ABR "to find its right way". Have on top a kind of flexible tunnel plastic as ABR cover and gas holder/reservoir. Keep rainwater away! Have a "Party-Filter" (effluent filter, e.g. from Tuf and Tite, USA) within the last ABR-camber outlet, to protect your CW against clogging by flushed out sludge.


I am only worried about the permanent sewage wetness of ??impermeable?? Amazonian clay. Have on side a separate trail for weeks with sewage before construction starts. Maybe you put 1 mm PE- foil on top of clay!?

They have successfully achieved infiltration of graywater into the soil...
I am guessing top soil.

We might make two ABRs for each cabin in order for use to alternate and never have to remove fresh sludge.
No need for two ABR's, you empty from time to time mineralized sludge from settler and after 3-4 years ("old") mineralized sludge from the ABR-camber grounds. Keep maximum distance to cabins!

The Compendium recommends...
Which compendium do you use, from BORDA (Sasse) maybe?

I hope my German-English was understanding enough.

Goooood Luck and let us (me only, if you like) know about your good and bad experiences made.

All the Best
Detlef]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Thu, 27 Mar 2014 06:30:10 +0000
Re: Can an ABR be done as a trench in clay with plastic sheets as baffles? - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#7992 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#7992
If you want something light and durable, with final assembly on site I would suggest you look into foam-core composite materials. This is a technique from boat or airplane construction (or surfboards) that is actually not that hard to do by yourself.
Basically you manually shape the overall body out of a polymer foam (something like Styopor), reinforce critical junctions with a thin layer of glass or carbon fiber and then cover everything with a resin (epoxy probably preferred in this case as it is easier to work with and more durable against chemical degradation).

The result should be pretty similar to a FRP body ABR, but easier to make and equally durable.]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Thu, 27 Mar 2014 05:35:47 +0000
Can an ABR be done as a trench in clay with plastic sheets as baffles? - by: canaday http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#7990 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7990-can-an-abr-be-done-as-a-trench-in-clay-with-plastic-sheets-as-baffles#7990
Can you imagine making an ABR (Anaerobic Baffled Reactor) by digging a one-meter-wide and one-meter-deep trench in firm, impermeable Amazonian clay and making the baffles by stretching sheets of thin plastic across the trench? (The woven polypropylene cloth of rice sacks would likely be impermeable enough, would get more impermeable with dissolved solids and biofilm, and would be stronger than other plastics.) There would be roughly equal water pressure on each side of each baffle, so it seems this should work.

I have been asked to treat the sewage from two tourist cabins in the indigenous Achuar Community of Sharamentsa, which is reached by flying about 45 minutes in small planes, so every gram of material counts. One cabin is for 20 persons and 100 m away there is another cabin for 12 persons, so each cabin will require separate treatment.

They have successfully achieved infiltration of graywater into the soil, but not so with the blackwater from flush toilets, thus they called me.

My main goal for the ABR is to remove solids and greases before finishing the treatment with an upflow Vegetated Sand Filter.

The Compendium recommends a Hydraulic Detention Time of between 2 and 3 days. Any comments on this?

We might make two ABRs for each cabin in order for use to alternate and never have to remove fresh sludge.

I am also suggesting we build UDDTs and urinals that feed directly to the soil of banana plantations, to reduce the load on the ABRs and Constructed Wetlands, especially during moments of peak occupancy. I, of course, would have preferred they build UDDTs throughout, but the place is already built and they figured some visitors would not accept anything but flush toilets.

Sharamentsa is where we first built UDDTs among the Achuar in 2003 and they have been well received and are still in use. This work will allow me to do more follow up.

All suggestions are welcome.

Best wishes,
Chris Canaday]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:41:57 +0000
exploitation de digesteurs et efficacité de traitement de boues de vidange (operation of digesters and efficiency of faecal sludge treatment - by: christophe http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7952-exploitation-de-digesteurs-et-efficacite-de-traitement-de-boues-de-vidange-operation-of-digesters-and-efficiency-of-faecal-sludge-treatment#7952 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7952-exploitation-de-digesteurs-et-efficacite-de-traitement-de-boues-de-vidange-operation-of-digesters-and-efficiency-of-faecal-sludge-treatment#7952 (translation from French to English from Google Translate provided below)

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Bonjour à tous,

Nouveau sur le forum, je suis un stagiaire du GRET à Rosso, en Mauritanie, pour réaliser l'avant projet détaillé d'une filière de vidange de fosses et de traitement des boues.

Le contexte hydrogéologique de la ville (nappe phréatique affleurante, sol argileux imperméable), outre la pollution générée, impose des vidanges fréquentes, principalement assurées par des vidangeurs informels en complément d'un camion aux capacités limitées, et régulièrement en panne. Un site de traitement répondant à des critères d'hygiène et de sécurité ne pourrait être implanté qu'en dehors de la ville.
Les possibilités de transport limitées des vidangeurs, associées aux moyens financiers réduits de la mairie empêchant l'achat, la maintenance et la réparation d'un camion performant en Mauritanie nous font envisager l'implantation de sites décentralisés accessibles aux vidangeurs informels pour un stockage temporaire et / ou un traitement des boues.

Parmi les solutions, la construction de digesteurs à dôme fixe serait intéressante par leurs faibles emprises au sol. J'aimerais soumettre à vos expériences et recueillir vos avis à propos de cette option, dans le contexte particulier du projet.

Tout d'abord, il me faut préciser que la valorisation par biogaz n'est pas envisagée. Malgré qu'elle soit corrélée à la production de biogaz, seule l'efficacité du traitement est recherchée, soit une forte diminution de volume des boues entrantes, et la production en sortie de boues stabilisés et hygiénisés. Mes réserves ne portent pas sur le procédé, mais sur son manque d'efficacité tel qu'il serait exploité à Rosso, pour les raisons suivantes:

*Qualité des intrants:

Alimentation avec des boues de vidange de latrines au ratio C/N proche de 8 (du moins pour les excréments humains frais), avec obligation d'un ajout de matière carbonée fermentescible pour être dans la gamme nominale comprise entre 20 et 30. De plus les boues de vidanges seront, du moins pour la fraction décantable, partiellement minéralisées, et pourront contenir en quantité des matières minérales d'origine non fécale, en particulier pour celles issues de fosses non maçonnées. Enfin, les différentes siccités selon l'origine des boues devront être estimées et corrigées pour rester dans le domaine de fermentation humide (entre 5 et 20%), avec un optimum de rendement pour 10% de MS.
Idéalement, en l'absence d'agitation interne, la matière de remplissage devrait être brassée avant insertion dans le réacteur.

*Irrégularité quantitative des intrants:

Nous avons peu de données fiables sur le service de vidange actuel, en particulier sur les volumes traitées. Le dimensionnement d'un réacteur s'en trouve difficile, et il semble impossible dans l'immédiat d'avoir une gestion quantitative rigoureuse des intrants, préjudiciable à l'équilibre biologique et donc à l'efficacité du traitement. Une sous-charge, déficit en nutriments, aura pour conséquence une lyse bactérienne et un déséquilibre au sein de cette biomasse variée.
Quant à la surcharge, elle privilégiera l'acidogénèse, assurée par des bactéries au métabolisme très rapide au détriment de l'hydrolyse, qui est le facteur limitant du procédé, avec pour conséquence l'accumulation d'acides gras volatils et une baisse de pH inhibant les bactéries méthanogènes. Enfin, un excès d'azote, possible avec un ratio C/N si faible, peut provoquer une accumulation d'ammoniac, avec une élévation du pH préjudiciable à la biomasse.


Si votre temps le permet, je serai très intéressé par vos appréciations des réserves que j'émet sur le choix de biodigesteurs pour traiter efficacement les boues de vidange dans le contexte décris, en particulier par défaut d'une exploitation rigoureuse.

Merci d'avance!

Amicalement,
Christophe Cambon

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Translation directly from Google Translate added by moderator (EvM):


Hello everyone,

New to the forum, I am an intern GRET in Rosso , Mauritania, to achieve the final design of a die drain clearing and sludge treatment project.

Hydrogeological context of the city (groundwater flush , impermeable clay soil ) , in addition to the generated pollution , requires frequent oil changes , mainly provided by informal scavengers in addition to a truck with limited capacity , and down regularly . A treatment site that meet health and safety criteria could not be located and outside the city.
Opportunities limited transport scavengers , combined with limited financial means of the municipality to prevent the purchase, maintenance and repair of a powerful truck in Mauritania do we consider the implementation of decentralized sites accessible to informal scavengers for temporary storage and / or a sludge treatment.

Among the solutions , the construction of fixed dome digesters would be interesting by low footprints on the ground. I would like to submit your experiences and your opinions about this option , in the particular context of the project.

Firstly, I should state that the valuation biogas is not considered. Despite being correlated with the production of biogas , only effective treatment is sought , a significant decrease in the volume of incoming sludge and production output stabilized and sanitized sludge. My concern is not about the process , but its lack of effectiveness as it would operate Rosso, for the following reasons :

* Quality of inputs:

Diet with sludge from latrines at C / N ratio close to 8 ( at least for fresh human feces ), with a requirement to add fermentable carbon material to be in between 20 and 30 nominal range . More sewage sludge will , at least for the settleable fraction , partially mineralized , and may contain quantities of minerals of non-faecal origin, especially those from non- lined pits . Finally, the different solids contents according to the origin of the sludge should be estimated and corrected to stay in the field of wet fermentation (between 5 and 20%) , with an optimum performance for 10% of MS .
Ideally , in the absence of internal stirring , the filler should be stirred prior to insertion into the reactor .

* Deficiency quantitative inputs :

We have little reliable data on the current drain service , especially on volumes processed. The design of a reactor is found difficult , and it seems not immediately have a rigorous quantitative management of inputs, detrimental to the ecological balance and thus the effectiveness of treatment. Underload , lack of nutrients, will result in bacterial lysis and an imbalance in this diverse biomass.
As for the overload , it will favor the acidogenesis , ensured by the very rapid metabolism bacteria to the detriment of the hydrolysis , which is the limiting factor of the process , resulting in the accumulation of volatile fatty acids and a decrease in pH inhibiting methanogens . Finally, an excess of nitrogen , possible with a C / N ratio so low , can cause an accumulation of ammonia, with an increase in pH detrimental to biomass.


If your time permits, I will be very interested in your comments reservations I emits the choice biodigester to effectively treat sludge in the context described , in particular the absence of a rigorous exploitation.

Thank you in advance!

Sincerely,
Christophe Cambon]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:39:46 +0000
Re: BioSanGas System - looking for anyone with experience in this field - by: PatrickBBB http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7180-biosangas-system-looking-for-anyone-with-experience-in-this-field?limit=12&start=12#7943 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7180-biosangas-system-looking-for-anyone-with-experience-in-this-field?limit=12&start=12#7943 canaday wrote:

As I understand it, urine does not contribute significantly to biogas production (correct me, anyone, if I am wrong).


There are benefits of including urine in the substrate.
- Depending on the composition (the C/N-ratio in particular) of the substrate urine can have a significant impact on the biogas yield.
- Another point is that by using urine, the need to add water to achieve suitable dry matter content decreases or in some cases there is no need to add additional water at all.]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:59:57 +0000
Re: Stirling engines running on biogas - by: AquaVerde http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7433-stirling-engines-running-on-biogas?limit=12&start=12#7668 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7433-stirling-engines-running-on-biogas?limit=12&start=12#7668 7 pages article in German language, in DWA's new KA 1/2014
Teil 1
summary in English]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:49:09 +0000
Re: Stirling engines running on biogas - by: AquaVerde http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7433-stirling-engines-running-on-biogas?limit=12&start=12#7614 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7433-stirling-engines-running-on-biogas?limit=12&start=12#7614 www.lichtblick.de/microsites/zhkw/index_en.php
...remote start-stop activity and monitoring by the power stations...


since 1986 Eckhart Weber working on stirlings
www.hans-dampf.ch/index2.php?inc=energie
former sunmachine (old.stirlingmaschine.de/deutsch/presse_7.html)
now superengine.de/e-index.html]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Tue, 04 Mar 2014 07:35:16 +0000
Re: Stirling engines running on biogas - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7433-stirling-engines-running-on-biogas?limit=12&start=12#7606 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7433-stirling-engines-running-on-biogas?limit=12&start=12#7606 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cycle).

If you don't have a use for the heat (and the electricity is not being subsidized by a "renewable resource" feed in tarif like in Germany) it might make sense to invest in a gas purifier and sell the gas directly.]]>
Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Mon, 03 Mar 2014 15:04:33 +0000
Re: Stirling engines running on biogas - by: sjoerdnienhuys http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7433-stirling-engines-running-on-biogas?limit=12&start=12#7605 http://forum.susana.org/forum/categories/35-biogas-sanitation-systems-and-dewats/7433-stirling-engines-running-on-biogas?limit=12&start=12#7605 Biogas sanitation systems and DEWATS Mon, 03 Mar 2014 14:08:48 +0000