SuSanA - Forum Kunena Site Syndication http://forum.susana.org/ Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:11:54 +0000 Kunena 1.6 http://forum.susana.org/components/com_kunena/template/default/images/icons/rss.png SuSanA - Forum http://forum.susana.org/ en-gb Re: Request for advice on UDDT slab design - by: JKMakowka http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/19074-request-for-advice-on-uddt-slab-design#19084 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/19074-request-for-advice-on-uddt-slab-design#19084 But it might be difficult to procure sufficiently sized ones. Maybe one could improvise something out of a plain galvanised iron sheet?]]> User interface technology innovations Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:52:39 +0000 Request for advice on UDDT slab design - by: Angus http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/19074-request-for-advice-on-uddt-slab-design#19074 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/19074-request-for-advice-on-uddt-slab-design#19074
I'm working on a project in Gambella, Ethiopia, to install UDDT and Tiger Worm toilets into a refugee camp as a more sustainable solution than building and rebuilding pit latrines.

I'm looking for advice regarding the slab. At the moment I'm using a design used successfully elsewhere in Ethiopia. I've attached a drawing of it to this post.
It gives a nice end result but is a little complicated to make, with a urine pot having to be cast separately. We need to make a lot of toilets quickly so any improvements to the design which can aid this, whilst still giving a good finish, are welcome.

Does anybody on this forum have any good ideas for any improvements on this design?

Thank you!

Angus]]>
User interface technology innovations Tue, 20 Sep 2016 21:02:55 +0000
Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: Florian http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17301 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17301 ggalli wrote:
For more on this topic, I would really recommend Rémi Kaupp's article on this new online magazine Broken Toilets: brokentoilets.org/article/good-shit-good-business/


Just got around now to read this article, really interesting piece looking into the different trends and fashions that marked sanitation in the past (this does of course not only happen in sanitation). As his conclusions are close to mine, emphasising the role of the public sector, I obviously like the article

Also nice that he illustrates the piece with our sludge truck card deck (. We still have these btw., let me know if anyone wants some!)]]>
User interface technology innovations Thu, 03 Mar 2016 07:57:58 +0000
Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: F H Mughal http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17300 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17300
That is great! I see, you now access Dawn as well. This is quite a news for me!!

Big cheers!

Best regards,

F H Mughal]]>
User interface technology innovations Thu, 03 Mar 2016 06:23:10 +0000
Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: Madhu http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17297 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17297
madhuthakar.blogspot.in/

I have also designed and developed a model household toilet based on DRDO bio digester technology and is being used by 3-5 persons daily since April 1, 2015 as proof of concept.I will be happy to share details if any one is interested.

Private sector must look at sanitation not only as a social sector philanthropy but also as a profit making business. The price point of US$ 200-800 per household for over a billion people is a huge business opportunity.Innovations in financing models need to be looked at for direct sales to end users.Partnerships with traders selling bicycles, scooters and motor cycles, TVs or tractor repair shops may help.]]>
User interface technology innovations Thu, 03 Mar 2016 03:42:20 +0000
Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: campbelldb http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17294 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17294
Best regards,
Dan]]>
User interface technology innovations Wed, 02 Mar 2016 15:58:37 +0000
Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: F H Mughal http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17293 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17293
Sanitation Updates, beyond doubt, is a major source of information on sanitation.

Cheers,

F H Mughal]]>
User interface technology innovations Wed, 02 Mar 2016 15:54:54 +0000
Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: campbelldb http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17291 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17291
Regards,
Dan]]>
User interface technology innovations Wed, 02 Mar 2016 15:45:35 +0000
Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: dorothee.spuhler http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17280 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17280
I like your idea of drafting the conclusion of this and other discussions in a overview schema on drivers and limitations for different actors to solve the "sanitation problem".
As a starting point we could start brainstorming those drivers and limitations for:
- households (low, middle, high-income) and communities
- governments (local, regional, national)
- private sector (small and medium sized (local/international, large national (local/international)
The schema could be used as a reference and to help oriente project and programme design in the future...?

Cheers, Dorothee]]>
User interface technology innovations Wed, 02 Mar 2016 09:31:00 +0000
Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: ggalli http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17268 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17268 brokentoilets.org/article/good-shit-good-business/]]> User interface technology innovations Tue, 01 Mar 2016 09:20:35 +0000 Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: Nikita http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17267 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17267 The new thinking that sanitation challenges can best be solved using locally developed solutions is a great innovation. What this means for the sanitation sector is that local communities (citizens and entrepreneurs) work together to develop their sanitation sector. This makes a lot of sense because it is a drive towards empowerment of local communities, development of innovations that are context specific, appropriate and therefore meet the needs of the community. Private sector involvement presents the opportunity to meet the financing gap and to ensure sustainable sanitation.
However, the golden rule for a meaningful and guaranteed involvement of private sector is "full cost recovery".
The challenge now is how to recover the full costs from the poor and more so from a state which has more than 50% of the population leaving in poverty? At this point, self provision by households and government subsidy fall off the equation and full cost recovery becomes not feasible. This has implications for the exit strategy? Someone has to take over the financing gap which has been left by the project funding to ensure sustainability.
To a certain extent, the externalities of poor sanitation provision are known and the greater proportion of the resultant health and welfare burden is borne by the poor. In view of that, governments and external funding agencies are justified to continue with these efforts even when they are aware that the solutions may not be sustainable.
In my opinion the solution lies in creating healthy economies and functional governments to ensure a better world for the poor but how the can that be achieved?]]>
User interface technology innovations Tue, 01 Mar 2016 07:29:28 +0000
Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: Marijn Zandee http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17222 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17222
The end users / population of a country is very important to include in any market overview.

I have been thinking about a schematic for sanitation markets for some time now, but have not found time to work it out in more detail. I am thinking of a triangle, with the corners being defined as: Population, Government and Private sector. I see the NGO sector as "mobile," they can dock to any of the other 3 players. It will depend on their size, working style, etc. who they decide to work with. For example, a large INGO may work with government agencies, or may subcontract to local NGOs who will work with the population. Alternatively, a smaller NGO may work with the private sector and the population in a small geographic area to improve toilet coverage.

I think a model like this, could help us identify what what key driver, or hindrances, are for each actor. For example, for the population, it will be something like aspirations (including cultural preferences)Versus ability to pay. The government could influence their aspirations in several ways -coercion through enforcing laws, or motivation through advertising.

I think working out a schema like this would help to identify where WASH interventions can make a difference.

Regards

Marijn]]>
User interface technology innovations Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:29:08 +0000
Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: DianeKellogg http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17174 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17174 User interface technology innovations Wed, 24 Feb 2016 08:48:09 +0000 Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: cecile http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17172 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17172
Yes I am talking about Egypt.
By lack of innovation I mean "business as usual", no quality assurance and poor maintenance.
There is a very interesting report about small scale sanitation systems in Egypt written by Philippe Reymond from eawag here : www.eawag.ch/en/department/sandec/projec...tainable-sanitation/
The very good thing about this report is that it gives an understanding from inside.
About the hindrances to innovation here is what he says:
"1. Business as usual: consultants tend to minimise their efforts and produce the
expected outcomes in the shortest time possible. There is also a tendency to
recycle designs from the 70s or the 80s, without taking into consideration the
technical improvements and scientific advances made since then.
2. There is no “learning culture” and constructive criticism,.i.e. consultants are not
encouraged to improve from one project to the next. Moreover, there is a
tendency to privilege relationships (“habibee economy” ‐ see §3.4.6) over
quality of work.
3. Local culture tends to be very hierarchical and based on seniority; there is little
room for the younger generation to design and implemented systems according
to the most recent state of the art.
4. The legal and regulatory framework, especially the Codes of Practice, tend to
discourage consultants and contractors to be innovative."


The political will and governance have an impact on the private sector's capacity to innovate and undertake good quality work:
- Instead of encouraging the private sector to inovate and find (smart and even cost effective) solutions (which some of them did), the contractors are blamed or even charged penalties whenever things do not go exactly as planned (i.e. topgography, number of houses, etc. normal construction issues)... So contractors just stop building and wait for a solution or do bad work...
- There is a strong suspicion against individual sanitation which is a solution that is despised in Egypt, hence all the houses that cannot be reached with pipes are just left out.

These just a few examples amongts others...

Best regards,

Cécile]]>
User interface technology innovations Wed, 24 Feb 2016 07:57:29 +0000
Re: Innovations and Private Sector: Can They Solve the Sanitation Problem? - by: muench http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17169 http://forum.susana.org/component/kunena/106-user-interface-technology-innovations/16881-innovations-and-private-sector-can-they-solve-the-sanitation-problem?limit=12&start=36#17169

Cecile, I wanted to ask you about what you said here:
In the country I am working in now, communities want proper sanitation and are ready to pay for it. There is money, but the capacity of the private sector to build proper infrastructure is relatively low, and there is poor political awareness and vision.

You're talking about Egypt, right? Would you say that lack of innovation is an issue there or would you say innovation is not really needed, neither is more private sector engagement but rather more political will and good governance?

Just as another input into the discussion, I wanted to mention this TedX talk of Brian Arborgast that was advertised on Sanitation Updates today:



Brian Arbogast is the Gates Foundation’s Director of Water, Sanitation & Hygiene Team Global Development Program. He is working on a technology that could lead to the greatest improvements in health and longevity in the developing world. That life-changing technology? The toilet. As part of the Gates Foundation’s efforts to bring groundbreaking innovations in sanitation to the developing world, he’ll share exciting new designs, some already in use, helping to reduce cholera, typhoid, and more. A toilet that needs no water, no plumbing, and creates an end product that can be used in gardens? It is closer to reality than you think.


I hear what Kris said about the Reinvented Toilet Challenge in this thread above:
I guess I speak for many when I say the "reinvent the toilet" drive has been a big disappointment so far. Not that there aren't cool projects among them, but nearly all of them seem so far removed from the daily realities of the people those sanitation problems are meant to be addressed...

It is for sure sometimes hard to imagine some of these new technologies being used in practice by those who're currently doing open defecation or living in slums.
E.g. I struggle a bit with the ones proposed under the Reinvent the Toilet China program:
forum.susana.org/forum/categories/105-pr...d-update-on-progress

Then again, looking beyond the purely technology innovations, there have been lots of other innovations in the area of management, behavior change, evidence collection etc. that's come out of many of the Gates funded sanitation projects, from the schemes other than the Reinvent the Toilet scheme (see here for an overview:
www.susana.org/en/resources/projects?vbl...;vbl_22%5B612%5D=612)

When it comes to TedTalks, mainstream media and news coverage in the West, it is however the toilet technology innovations that capture the minds of people, so no wonder they get more "airtime" than other innovations, such as a the simple SaTo pan (which seems to be a very simple and yet very succesful innovation, also funded by the BMGF):
www.susana.org/en/resources/projects?search=sato

Regards,
Elisabeth]]>
User interface technology innovations Wed, 24 Feb 2016 07:04:24 +0000